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Date:      Thu, 5 Jul 2001 16:45:33 -0600
From:      "Kenneth D. Merry" <ken@kdm.org>
To:        schilling@fokus.gmd.de
Cc:        gibbs@scsiguy.com, freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org, mckay@thehub.com.au
Subject:   Re: Problems reading burned CDs
Message-ID:  <20010705164533.A53974@panzer.kdm.org>
In-Reply-To: <200107051310.PAA00961@burner.fokus.gmd.de>; from schilling@fokus.gmd.de on Thu, Jul 05, 2001 at 03:10:07PM %2B0200
References:  <200107051310.PAA00961@burner.fokus.gmd.de>

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On Thu, Jul 05, 2001 at 15:10:07 +0200, schilling@fokus.gmd.de wrote:
> >From gibbs@scsiguy.com Tue Jul  3 16:31:46 2001
> 
> >>>> There is no capacity reporting problem, the capacity is reported as documen
> >>ted
> >>>> in the CD standards.
> >>
> >>>Well, it's good to know it isn't a bug. :)
> >>
> >>It definitely _is_ a bug.
> 
> >Sending a Bus Device Reset message to a target when it doesn't respond
> >in the expected amount of time is a bug?  Perhaps the driver could try
> >an abort message first, but the behavior is not completely unreasonable.
> >Your other complaints seem to be in regard to a "bus reset", which never
> >occurred in this situation.
> 
> OK, if it is no bus device reset, it should be OK.

Eh?  It is a bus device reset...

> However, 5 seconds is a too short timeout.

For what?  The 5 second timeout is for a generic SCSI command facility,
not for any particular command.  5 seconds is plenty of time for some
commands, and way too short for others.  A user savvy enough to compose
his own CDBs should also be knowledgeable enough to specify a suitable
timeout.

Sometimes a knowledgeable user will forget (like I did) to specify a
longer timeout or will try to find a suitable timeout via
experimentation.  Either way, he'll figure out soon enough whether the
timeout was long enough and therefore whether he needs to make it longer.

Ken
-- 
Kenneth Merry
ken@kdm.org

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