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Date:      Mon, 09 Apr 2001 13:04:34 -0700 (PDT)
From:      John Baldwin <jhb@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>
Cc:        FreeBSD-arch@FreeBSD.org, Bruce Evans <bde@zeta.org.au>
Subject:   Re: Making ddb a kld
Message-ID:  <XFMail.010409130434.jhb@FreeBSD.org>
In-Reply-To: <20010408113054.L76422@wantadilla.lemis.com>

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On 08-Apr-01 Greg Lehey wrote:
> On Saturday,  7 April 2001 at 17:37:27 +1000, Bruce Evans wrote:
>> On Fri, 6 Apr 2001, Greg Lehey wrote:
>>
>>> A little over a year, I did some work for Sitara Networks.  In the
>>> course of this work, I made ddb an lkm, in order to be able to load it
>>> on a production system if needed.
>>>
>>> I'm now in the process of merging Sitara's code, which is based on
>>> 3.2-RELEASE, into RELENG_4.  Sitara have generously agreed that we can
>>> commit any fixes they have in their tree which are not vital to their
>>> commercial interests.  The ddb mods would be one of them.  Do we want
>>> to do this?
>>
>> Of course not.
>>
>>> The pros and cons I see are:
>>>
>>> Pro:
>>>
>>> 1.  We often get people who say "my system crashes.  Why".  On
>>>     checking, there's no practical way to determine why, because they
>>>     don't have a debugger in the system.
>>
>> They can run gdb if they have a panic dump.
> 
> If they have a panic dump and a kernel with symbols.  You'll recall
> that all attempts of mine to get the latter as default have been shot
> down in flames.

Oh geez.  www.freebsd.org/~jhb/patches/newkern.patch for current.  I just
haven't tested to make sure that hte alpha CD still boots ok with the mfsroot
changes.

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