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Date:      Tue, 19 Apr 2016 12:27:51 +0200
From:      Lars Engels <lars.engels@0x20.net>
To:        dan_partelly <dan_partelly@rdsor.ro>
Cc:        Julian Elischer <julian@freebsd.org>, Alfred Perlstein <alfred@freebsd.org>, lev@FreeBSD.org, Glen Barber <gjb@FreeBSD.org>, Nathan Whitehorn <nwhitehorn@freebsd.org>, Sean Fagan <sef@ixsystems.com>, freebsd-pkgbase@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: [CFT] packaging the base system with pkg(8)
Message-ID:  <20160419102751.GM82927@e-new.0x20.net>
In-Reply-To: <4787f50d3f160e606ad55737e93a324a@rdsor.ro>
References:  <20160302235429.GD75641@FreeBSD.org> <57152CE5.5050500@FreeBSD.org> <9D4B9C8B-41D7-42BC-B436-D23EFFF60261@ixsystems.com> <20160418191425.GW1554@FreeBSD.org> <571533B8.6090109@freebsd.org> <20160418194010.GX1554@FreeBSD.org> <57153E80.4080800@FreeBSD.org> <571551AB.4070203@freebsd.org> <5715E1E9.8060507@freebsd.org> <4787f50d3f160e606ad55737e93a324a@rdsor.ro>

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On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 12:18:00PM +0300, dan_partelly wrote:
>=20
> be as terse as possible. You guys seen the "Add remove programs"
>  in Windows control panel ? Thats sane. Even now the default output =20
> of pkg borders insane, when you have many packages installed. 99% of my
> time
> I dont really care about lib-rtyum546.78.9. I care only less than 1% of my
> time when something=20
> goes wrong.=20

Don't use "pkg info" then. Use "pkg leaf":

% pkg info | wc -l
     249
% pkg leaf | wc -l
      25

"leaf" is an alias for:
pkg 'query -e "%a =3D=3D 0" "%n-%v"'


And to everyone complaining about the number of packages: How many of
you have actually used the packaged base?

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