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Date:      Fri, 21 Jul 2006 07:50:48 -0700
From:      Sam Leffler <sam@errno.com>
To:        obrien@FreeBSD.org
Cc:        cvs-src@FreeBSD.org, src-committers@FreeBSD.org, alc@cs.rice.edu, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org, "M. Warner Losh" <imp@bsdimp.com>
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/share/mk bsd.cpu.mk
Message-ID:  <44C0E9C8.7000509@errno.com>
In-Reply-To: <20060721125118.GA6326@dragon.NUXI.org>
References:  <200607202242.k6KMgmQq064714@repoman.freebsd.org> <44C012D1.2050905@cs.rice.edu> <20060720.173927.790476985.imp@bsdimp.com> <20060721125118.GA6326@dragon.NUXI.org>

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David O'Brien wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 20, 2006 at 05:39:27PM -0600, M. Warner Losh wrote:
>> In message: <44C012D1.2050905@cs.rice.edu>
>>             Alan Cox <alc@cs.rice.edu> writes:
>> : Warner Losh wrote:
>> : 
>> : >imp         2006-07-20 22:42:48 UTC
>> : >
>> : >  FreeBSD src repository
>> : >
>> : >  Modified files:
>> : >    share/mk             bsd.cpu.mk 
>> : >  Log:
>> : >  Remove ALPHA optimization pointer for gcc flags.
>> : >  Add ARM optimization pointer for gcc flags.
>> : >  
>> : >  Revision  Changes    Path
>> : >  1.53      +1 -1      src/share/mk/bsd.cpu.mk
>> : >  
>> : >
>> : I'm curious.  Is there an ETA for a working arm tool-chain in CVS HEAD?
>>
>> As soon as I can work out with David how he wants me to commit it.  Or
>> until I get tired of waiting and make any mistakes I make his problem
>> as punishment for not getting back to me in a timely manner.
> 
> I'm working on getting it in upstream first - what was decided in the
> past as the proper path to grow new architectures in FreeBSD.  Otherwise
> we can go down the same path we did in the past where our toolchain
> diverged very far from the GNU sources and we were left on own
> maintaining them.  Note that from what I've seen none of the anxious ARM
> kernel developers have spent one once of time on this issue.

Not sure why you have not seen "anxious ARM kernel developers"; there
are now quite a few people w/ boards trying to get going and everyone
has to patch CVS to do anything.

> 
> I'd like to ask when we'll get ARM resources in the FreeBSD.org cluster
> so committers can have access to ARM - I don't.  So it is hard to test
> anything.  Until a month ago no one would agree on a reference platform
> so toolchain work could be tested vs.  spending all my time trying to get
> something working that no one else had.  I am still waiting to get the
> ARM board I purchased in my hands and working.

Last I heard your avila board was in transit or had arrived.  Regardless
I think it's going to be problematic to expect there be copies of some
of these embedded platforms present in the cluster.  I believe the
logistics are nontrivial.

> 
> Alan I'm curious, for you what is the rush?
>  
People have boards and want to get things running.  This is slowing us down.

	Sam




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