Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 12:04:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey <chuckr@glue.umd.edu> To: Jamie Bowden <jamie@itribe.net> Cc: Annelise Anderson <andrsn@andrsn.stanford.edu>, Scott Blachowicz <scott@statsci.com>, ac199@hwcn.org, "Jonathan M. Bresler" <jmb@FreeBSD.ORG>, hoek@hwcn.org, softweyr@xmission.com, chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FTC regulating use of registrations Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.3.96.970811120201.298C-100000@Journey2.mat.net> In-Reply-To: <199708111413.KAA16436@gatekeeper.itribe.net>
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On Mon, 11 Aug 1997, Jamie Bowden wrote: Jamie, that wasn't an adult thing to do. If you feel you have to insult someone, please go use usenet. This has been an interesting discussion so far, but your invective doesn't encourage discussion, just hurt feelings. > On Sun, 10 Aug 1997, Annelise Anderson wrote: > > > There's also no evidence that what students learn correlates with > > the amount spent per student. > > Please share whatever it is you're smoking. School systems in most states > are paid for by local property taxes. In wealthy suburbs property values > are higher, and owners pay a smaller percentage, yet generate more revenue > than their poor urban counterparts. They avg > 8k/yr/student, with the > richest being one of the Chicago suburbs with 18k/yr/student. Inner-city > and rural scools are lucky to see 5k/yr/student. While money is not the > only factor, it's a huge one. The suburban schools have nice clean well > lit environments in which to learn, with broad curriculea, and many > extra-curricular activities. Inner-city and rural schools are lucky to > have school buildings without holes in the roof and walls. My wife is a > professional educator, who brings home this stuff, and I read it mostly to > not be reading something computer related. The educators will tell you > that while money isn't the only factor in a student's ability to learn and > succeed, it's a large one. Your politicians are the one's claiming that > the school's available funds don't make a difference. You go to a school > where the textbooks are 2 years out of date, and in short supply, a > library that is mostly non-existant, understaffed, and has no purchasing > power because textbooks are a priority, a building that's over 50 years > old, in need of repair, with no available funds for that either, and > underpaid teachers (who tend to be the worst the educational system has to > offer, since the better teachers in general go to schools where they don't > have the limitations, and safety concerns these schools present, and make > more), and we'll see how well you do. Don't ever claim money makes no > difference. You're either lying or naive. In the world we live in, money > always makes a difference. > > Jamie Bowden > > System Administrator, iTRiBE.net > > > ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 213 Lakeside Drive Apt T-1 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and picnic, both FreeBSD (301) 220-2114 | version 3.0 current -- and great FUN! ----------------------------+-----------------------------------------------
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