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Date:      Thu, 15 Nov 2007 14:55:02 -0500
From:      Chuck Robey <chuckr@chuckr.org>
To:        "[LoN]Kamikaze" <LoN_Kamikaze@gmx.de>
Cc:        RW <fbsd06@mlists.homeunix.com>, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Ports with GUI configs
Message-ID:  <473CA416.2040300@chuckr.org>
In-Reply-To: <47394287.6050303@gmx.de>
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[LoN]Kamikaze wrote:
> Chuck Robey wrote:
>> RW wrote:
>>> On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:54:33 +0100
>>> Tino Engel <elrap@web.de> wrote:
>>>
>>>> RW schrieb:
>>>>> On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 16:10:29 -0500
>>>>> Chuck Robey <chuckr@chuckr.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  
>>>>>> I hope not.  We really need to move this out of being a ports
>>>>>> buildtime thing.  Currently, to build ports in batch either
>>>>>> requires someone to be chained to the computer, so as to intercept
>>>>>> all those screens, or to simply agree to install everything, with
>>>>>> no inpput whatever.     
>>>>> That's not correct, you can run make config-conditional or  make
>>>>> config-recursive anytime you like.
>>>>>
>>>>>   
>>>> But not on a portupgrade... I don't want to run config-recursive on
>>>> the whole ports tree though....
>>> It's not hard to script it though, something like the following would do
>>>
>>> #!/bin/sh
>>> for p in `pkg_version -ol'<' |awk '{ print $1 }'`; do
>>>  cd  /usr/ports/${p} && make config-recursive done
>> I can't believe you actually suggested this.  First thing, it would take
>> you HOURS to complete, and you better not make even one mistake, 'cause
>> you couldn't even go back far enough to figure out what the name was of
>> the port you muffed.  Beyond that, since most ports ask questions formed
>> with the name of the target dependency, aznd not asking things like "do
>> you want such-and-such capability", so you have to be conversant with
>> the names and capabilities of nearly 10,000 ports, to be able to do that
>> job.
> 
> It will only operate on 10000 ports if you have 10000 ports installed and a
> majority of them is outdated.

Are you seriously saying that a decision regarding what ports are to be 
installed should be made after they are installed?  If you have 10,000 
ports installed, you obviously have no need whatever to make any 
decision at all.   Whether or not they are outdated is utterly 
irrelevant, because if they're installed, it may be inferred that you 
wanted them.  It's the decision whether to install them or not that 
we're talking about.

Upgrading has no bearing whatever on this.  Why do you bring that up?

> 
> I'm of the impression that you don't really know what the commands do you're
> shown here and come to ridiculous conclusions because of this.




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