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Date:      Tue, 8 Jan 2019 12:42:51 +0100
From:      "Tobias C. Berner" <tcberner@freebsd.org>
To:        Max Brazhnikov <makc@freebsd.org>, Adriaan de Groot <adridg@freebsd.org>
Cc:        "Tobias C. Berner" <tcberner@freebsd.org>, ports-committers@freebsd.org,  svn-ports-all@freebsd.org, svn-ports-head@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r488656 - head/archivers/ark
Message-ID:  <CAOshKtcxDETC7t0LLQBk1tBZLTDfduhrBk3oddXmP==qx-NbMg@mail.gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <2925580.fqq9MUTMxn@mercury.ph.man.ac.uk>
References:  <201812290643.wBT6hrrn004823@repo.freebsd.org> <2925580.fqq9MUTMxn@mercury.ph.man.ac.uk>

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Hi Max

I would like to have the KDE packages to be the most useful they can, i.e.
"batteries included".
People who want to have a limited set can still toggle them off, but those
that just use the
packages will get a full-fledged usable desktop from the moment they pkg
install it.

I was scratching my head at whether to enable rar by default or not,
because of the licensing
issue, but as its license terms allow its redistribution, I found it to be
acceptable -- I'm not a lawyer [tm].
If its not, we can revert that one.

I don't find package messages sufficient, the easiest example for this is
   "why don't I have any sound in KDE".
While the pkg-message of phonon clearly states that a backend is needed.



mfg Tobias

On Tue, 8 Jan 2019 at 00:03, Max Brazhnikov <makc@freebsd.org> wrote:

> Hi, Tobias!
>
> On =D1=81=D1=83=D0=B1=D0=B1=D0=BE=D1=82=D0=B0, 29 =D0=B4=D0=B5=D0=BA=D0=
=B0=D0=B1=D1=80=D1=8F 2018 =D0=B3. 6:43:53 UTC Tobias C. Berner wrote:
> > Author: tcberner
> > Date: Sat Dec 29 06:43:53 2018
> > New Revision: 488656
> > URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/ports/488656
> >
> > Log:
> >   archivers/ark: enable options by default
>
> The reason was to make the package as light as possible and allow users
> install
> additional packages they need. That why KDE ports had all optional runtim=
e
> deps
> disabled by default. There is another problem with this particular case:
> now
> ark depends on binary port with non-free license (archivers/rar) and on
> archivers/unrar (also with restrictive license), which I find less useful=
l
> than unrar-iconv.
>
> >   - an archiver that cannot handle archives by default is not great
>
> Perhaps pkg-message with advice would be sufficient?
>
> Cheers,
> Max
>
>
>



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