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Date:      Thu, 6 Apr 2006 10:34:21 -0400
From:      Bill Moran <wmoran@collaborativefusion.com>
To:        usleepless@gmail.com
Cc:        keramida@ceid.upatras.gr, tzons@comcast.net, freebsd@redry.net, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Help?
Message-ID:  <20060406103421.09aff4e0.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com>
In-Reply-To: <c39ec84c0604060720q53d6b276h2559e09b222934fe@mail.gmail.com>
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usleepless@gmail.com wrote:

> how about one of the LiveCDs? or don't they work like knoppix/ubuntu
> auto configuring the most important hardware ( inputdevices, audio,
> video ) ?

This sidesteps the point.  If he doesn't have time to deal with hardware
issues, does he have time to deal with software issues and a learnig curve?

I'm not disagreeing with you.  Live CDs are a great way to get ones feet
wet with a new OS, and I highly recommend FreeSBIE as a way to introduce
yourself to FreeBSD without making any commitment.  You still need time
to experiment, however.

> On 4/6/06, eoghan <freebsd@redry.net> wrote:
> > Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
> > > On 2006-04-06 09:49, Bill Moran <wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> wrote:
> > >> "Tom" <tzons@comcast.net> wrote:
> > >>> I am just looking at Free BSD as a Windows alternative.  I
> > >>> have a home workgroup that I am out growing and wanting to do
> > >>> more with, but don't want to give MS any more Hundreds of hard
> > >>> earned dollars.
> > >>>
> > >>> My first question is where can I find a site that will list
> > >>> all approved or thoroughly checked out hardware to build a
> > >>> "box" (motherboards, and the like).  I don't have the time, or
> > >>> patience to get into major software conflicts or bugs. I want
> > >>> to follow a A to B to C box build and software setup. Is there
> > >>> someone (or more) to guide me through the process? Is there a
> > >>> website with complete and accurate information on it? Is there
> > >>> a "BSD for idiots" instruction book that's current? Is there a
> > >>> BSD project team working with manufactures and touting their
> > >>> successes?  Help!
> > >> Don't use FreeBSD.  I know this will be an unpopular post on
> > >> this list, but you've said a number of things that tell me that
> > >> you will be unsuccessful with FreeBSD:
> > >> 1) You don't seem to have any Unix experience
> > >> 2) You're coming from a Windows world
> > >> 3) You don't have time or patience
> > >>
> > >> #3 is particularly important, given #1 and #2.  FreeBSD _will_
> > >> take you some time to understand.  It _will_ take some time and
> > >> effort to get it working the way you want.  Since you are
> > >> totally new to it, it _will_ require patience.
> > >>
> > >> If you don't have time or patience to learn right now, you're
> > >> setting yourself up for failure.  When you do have some time
> > >> and patience, we'll be happy to help you through your learning
> > >> curve.  If you're looking for a fast, easy fix, you're not
> > >> going to find it by switching operating systems to something
> > >> you know nothing about.
> > >>
> > >> I've seen a number of people bash Linux and the BSDs because
> > >> they wanted a simple, cheap solution to Windows and did not
> > >> have the time or patience to work through the learning curve.
> > >> Unless I've misinterpreted your email and you do have some Unix
> > >> experience, this is not a good time to make the switch.
> > >
> > > No, this post shouldn't be unpopular on this list.
> > >
> > >   * It was written in a clear, non-confrontational, civilized tone.
> > >   * It explains why making the switch to FreeBSD may turn out badly.
> > >   * It also makes it very clear that time and effort _is_ required.
> > >
> > > Tom, please read carefully what Bill Moran has written.  Even if
> > > I tried, I would probably fail to put it all in better words.
> > >
> > > Then, if you decide that you _have_ the patience and time to
> > > switch, feel free to ask any question about FreeBSD here :)
> > >
> > > - Giorgos
> >
> > Yes, I agree. Although I had the luxury of having two machines, the
> > other being a mac, so I could play with unix on that. I also dumped
> > windows on my pc and decided on freeBSD. At first, I had trouble
> > installing and configuring it. But with some time and this list I am up
> > and running and get more and more comfortable with it each day.
> > So if you have a spare pc lying around, try it out on this first till
> > you get comfortable, and then go for it.
> > Eoghan
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Bill Moran
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