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Date:      Sun, 10 Dec 2000 14:39:00 -0600 (CST)
From:      Mike Meyer <mwm@mired.org>
To:        current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: /usr/local abuse
Message-ID:  <14899.59876.991445.928124@guru.mired.org>
In-Reply-To: <14899.59134.262811.806345@zircon.seattle.wa.us>
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Joe Kelsey <joe@zircon.seattle.wa.us> types:
> David O'Brien writes:
>  > On Sun, Dec 10, 2000 at 11:22:17AM -0800, Joe Kelsey wrote:
>  > > Basically, /usr/local is for anything the local administration wants to
>  > > officially support.  The ports use of this (and by extension,
>  > > pre-compiled ports (packages)) is thus completely justified.
>  > Do you understandy why NetBSD's Packages install in /usr/pkg ?
>  > What is your position behind that?
> I have no problem with /usr/pkg.  I personally do not see the need for
> it.  I have been arguing with Mike over his historic characterization of
> /usr/local as being a repository of locally written software, and I
> think I have proved my point that his characterization is incorrect.

I think I've proved that you completely misunderstood my
characterization of /usr/local. I also think that I proved Brandon's
characterization of using /usr/local for packages as "steeped in
decades of tradition" as false.

> My argument is solely that Mike is incorrect in characterizing
> /usr/local as a place for locally written software.  I also find that
> his table is incorrect historically.  The table he presented conveys his
> *wish* for administrative purposes and his attempts to justify it by
> some sort of historical argument do not hold water.

I don't think I ever claimed that it was solely for locally *written*
software. I claimed it was for locally *maintained* software. There's
a difference.

I don't know where you got the idea that the table had any kind of
historic representation. Nothing in it represents *history*. It
describes the world as it is now. If you feel that something in it is
incorrect, please say what it is instead of making vague statements
about the entire table.

	<mike



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