Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2019 07:52:19 +0100 From: =?UTF-8?Q?J=c3=bcrgen_Ofner?= <xenon@ze.tum.de> To: freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The status of docker Message-ID: <df79605a-679f-17b3-0dca-ae736f529199@ze.tum.de> In-Reply-To: <5c926314-adce-dba1-f5ce-2fda35e1aeba@gjunka.com> References: <089e330d-2761-2440-3b7f-dd22e9088af5@gjunka.com> <9A01020A-7CC6-4893-A425-11A7BF736F4E@ultra-secure.de> <42f59b63-fdc7-306f-d836-83533741a86c@FreeBSD.org> <CAG=rPVfTZnYc6%2BDjtk0SjkqijJQh6uA1G9VWEBsYy4aDYvYEgQ@mail.gmail.com> <CC0F6FB5-7939-4586-86DD-B5548E0043C3@punkt.de> <5c926314-adce-dba1-f5ce-2fda35e1aeba@gjunka.com>
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Am 22.01.19 um 20:48 schrieb Grzegorz Junka: > On 22/01/2019 08:28, Patrick M. Hausen wrote: >> Good morning, >> >>> Am 22.01.2019 um 03:57 schrieb Craig Rodrigues <rodrigc@freebsd.org>: >>> I hope I am wrong, but unfortunately I think getting Docker to work on >>> natively on FreeBSD is ultimately a losing battle, >>> unless you can get a team of several developers to work on it full >>> time. >> I have the same gut feeling, but unless somebody actually tries, we >> can’t >> tell for sure, can we? ;-) >> >> Thanks for making the effort. >> >> Now what I wanted to throw in: possibly getting in touch with some of >> the >> people at Joyent who implemented Docker support for Illumos/Solaris >> zones might help: >> >> https://www.joyent.com/blog/triton-docker-and-the-best-of-all-worlds >> <https://www.joyent.com/blog/triton-docker-and-the-best-of-all-worlds>; > > I think the question is how much should be implemented by a freebsd > port and how much should come from the native linux/docker > implementation. There are two extremes: > > 1. Linux in bhyve, docker is running completely in Linux environment > > 2. A docker container in a jail with no native linux kernel, docker is > running completely in FreeBSD environment > > 1 is the least convenient because it requires all the hurdles related > to setting up a bhyve host, including proper network configuration for > containers and pre-allocating disk space. But it also requires no > implementation in freebsd-related docker ports apart from maybe adding > support to docker tools, like docker-machine for example > > 2 would be most convenient but also most difficult as all smallest > docker features would need to be ported natively to FreeBSD > > I believe docker and freebsd-docker ports were trying different > approaches somewhere in between these extremes. Maybe the correct > approach would be to start with 1 and make running docker in bhyve as > convenient as possible, then slowly move to 2 as much as > interest/resources allow? > > GrzegorzJ > 3. A Docker Hub Forge with Container basis on Free-BSD > -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ technische Universität München WWW & Online Service Systemadministrator Jürgen Ofner Tel. : 089 289 25266 Fax : 089 289 25257
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