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Date:      Thu, 17 May 2018 18:43:25 -0400
From:      "John W. O'Brien" <john@saltant.com>
To:        Maxim Sobolev <sobomax@freebsd.org>
Cc:        FreeBSD Ports <freebsd-ports@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Practice of "Sponsored by" in commit messages
Message-ID:  <3cc77471-4200-1f45-e83d-2ae4d636f4fa@saltant.com>
In-Reply-To: <CAH7qZfs8eNMkkeQ0eyV5AcapOCQFFL1fUiBDR1aM1875-Cy-Lg@mail.gmail.com>
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From: "John W. O'Brien" <john@saltant.com>
To: Maxim Sobolev <sobomax@freebsd.org>
Cc: FreeBSD Ports <freebsd-ports@freebsd.org>
Message-ID: <3cc77471-4200-1f45-e83d-2ae4d636f4fa@saltant.com>
Subject: Re: Practice of "Sponsored by" in commit messages
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On 2018/05/14 20:14, Maxim Sobolev wrote:
> What's wrong with a current practice. Why is it of any concern to you,
> John? Just curious that is not very clear from your message. It is like=

> someone trying to moderate what people in general or some group in
> particular (e.g. freebsd committers) are allowed to put on their
> t-shirts just because you find it offensive or inappropriate.

I don't find crediting sponsors offensive nor inappropriate. Quite the
contrary. What I find problematic is when multiple people do work, not
all with sponsorship or the same sponsorship, and only one person's
sponsor is mentioned in a way that seems to imply that all the work was
sponsored.

What I'm proposing is not to end or ban the practice, but to improve and
refine it so that sponsors are credited for what they sponsor and not
for what they don't sponsor.

Is that clearer?

> On Mon, May 14, 2018, 4:40 PM John W. O'Brien <john@saltant.com
> <mailto:john@saltant.com>> wrote:
>=20
>     Hello FreeBSD Ports,
>=20
>     The Committer's Guide section on Commit Log Messages [0], doesn't c=
over
>     the use of the "Sponsored by" key word. As a non-committer contribu=
tor,
>     it only recently occurred to me to wonder what work that credit is
>     intended to represent, and whether some light definition would be
>     helpful to reduce ambiguity.
>=20
>     When a committer credits a sponsor of theirs, from which the contri=
butor
>     received no sponsorship, the portrayal feels a little awkward. Does=
 this
>     strike the list as a problem, and if so, how ought it be solved?
>=20
>     To make this concrete, allow me to illustrate the situation.
>=20
>     Alice, working on her own time, prepares and contributes a patch. B=
ob,
>     who works for Acme Corp, reviews and commits the patch on company t=
ime.
>     The commit message includes "Sponsored by: Acme Corp". Alice eagerl=
y
>     awaits her check from Acme Corp. Should the commit message have rea=
d
>     "Sponsored by: Acme Corp (Bob)"?
>=20
>     This could be extensible to multiple sponsorships. If, instead, Ali=
ce
>     prepares the patch having received a grant to do so from Best Sys D=
ev,
>     the commit message could state "Sponsored by: Acme Corp (Bob), Best=
 Sys
>     Dev (Alice)".
>=20
>     [0]
>     https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/committers-gui=
de/article.html#commit-log-message
>=20
>     PS: I realize that this issue transcends ports, but it's not clear =
where
>     I should send this instead, and this list seems like it would have =
a
>     reasonably high concentration of people with a stake in the discuss=
ion.


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