Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 22:45:39 -0500 From: "John Telford" <j.telford@sympatico.ca> To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" <tedm@toybox.placo.com>, "Andrew Hesford" <ajh3@chmod.ath.cx> Cc: <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: Re: What name brand would you buy for a firewall/router ? Message-ID: <001e01c0b282$8fd4bb70$3f37e540@johnny2k> References: <006e01c0b1cc$3c563020$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com>
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Thanks for the input folks, I'll take a closer look at the trade ins I just got and grab whats in the best shape. Here's a thought, load it up and also leave a configured PicoBSD floppy on site in case the HDD craps out. Perhaps have one of their workstations with a second NIC in it, in case the whole box dies, they boot with the PicoBSD and they are back on-line in emergency mode while I send out a replacement. Hey, did a light just go on here <g>. Ted, I was on an install job last week and went for a coffee at the closest place, a Chapters store and there sitting out on a shelf was your book, not even in the computer section. I took it as a good omen and picked it up. Regards, John. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" <tedm@toybox.placo.com> To: "Andrew Hesford" <ajh3@chmod.ath.cx>; "John Telford" <j.telford@sympatico.ca> Cc: <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG> Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 1:00 AM Subject: RE: What name brand would you buy for a firewall/router ? > I've actually found that 486/33's and 486/25's are quite > satisfactory at acting as simple Ethernet-to-Ethernet routers. > > In fact, at my home here I have a 386/25 EISA box with > 2 SMC8013 ethernet cards in it and I can pass 3.5Mbt through > this for hours without trouble. This is with a 10BaseT > nic in a Celeron that can run the Ethernet at 9Mbt if no > other devices are talking. > > The great thing about the 486's is that the CPU's don't have > to be fan-cooled so there's one more failure point gone, > and they use less power, generate less heat, and as a > result last a lot longer. The downside is finding 500Mbt > disk drives for them. > > Ted Mittelstaedt tedm@toybox.placo.com > Author of: The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide > Book website: http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Andrew Hesford > >Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 9:38 PM > >To: John Telford > >Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > >Subject: Re: What name brand would you buy for a firewall/router ? > > > > > >If you want a box to push packets, go to a flea market or your favorite > >source for old hardware, and buy an old Dell Dimension P100. If you > >like, you can substitute the words "Dell Dimension P100" with the > >name of your (boss's) choice. > > > >I won't buy a Celeron on principle. A PIII is overkill extraordinaire if > >you're just jockeying packets. Get something in the 100-200 MHz range, > >which should go for less than $200 today. > > > >Naturally you will want PCI slots, since all the good NICs are PCI > >cards. > > > >I've got a diskless, videoless Dimension XPS P90c that runs PicoBSD. It > >does NAT, port forwarding, and packet filtering. I couldn't be happier. > >Cheap, quiet, easy. And I don't feel like I'm wasting a good processor, > >since I can't think of a better use for a 90 MHz Pentium. > > > >On Tue, Mar 20, 2001 at 12:31:37AM -0500, John Telford wrote: > >> If the boss said "stop using those old cast offs for FreeBSD > >> firewalls/routers and buy a name brand" > >> What's out there right now that would be worth looking at and avoiding. > >> Dell, IBM, Compaq ? Processor Celeron, PIII, AMD ? > >> Thanks in advance, John. > >> > >> > >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > >> with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > >-- > >Andrew Hesford > >ajh3@chmod.ath.cx > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
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