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Date:      Sun, 6 Oct 2002 17:27:08 -0400 (EDT)
From:      Peter Leftwich <Hostmaster@Video2Video.Com>
To:        FreeBSD LIST <FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.Org>
Subject:   Re: /dev/urandom is randomly cool
Message-ID:  <20021006172402.M71117-100000@earl-grey.cloud9.net>
In-Reply-To: <20021006161444.H90352-100000@cactus.fi.uba.ar>

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On Sun, 6 Oct 2002, Fernando Gleiser wrote:
> On Sun, 6 Oct 2002, Mikko Ty=F6l=E4j=E4rvi wrote:
> >  tr -cd a-zA-Z0-9 < /dev/urandom | dd bs=3D$len count=3D1 2>/dev/null

It didn't work.  My shell is tcsh so I tried:
tr -cd a-zA-Z0-9 < /dev/urandom | dd bs=3D8 count=3D1 >& /dev/null
And all I got was the next prompt.

> > Which will give you $len random bytes from the set a-zA-Z0-9 (it reads
> > a lot more from /dev/urandom than it produces though).
> yes, and that is bad :(
> It is not good to mess with /dev/[u]random more than what's really needed=
,
> because you can exhaust the entropy pool, and that's a Bad Thing.

How large (deep?) is this entropy pool?

> In your home box, for learning purposes, that's OK, but in a production b=
ox
> which needs a good working prng (for crypto session keys, auth cookies an=
d the
> like) it is not acceptable to "eat" all the entropy pool unless you have
> a very good reason to do so.
> =09=09=09Fer

They ought to build motherboards with tiny lava lamps for randomness :)

> > Another answer is, as always, "use perl" :-)
> >   $.02,
> >   /Mikko

Yeah yeah-yeah.  It's just nice having an all-inclusive OS, that's all!

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