Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2000 21:26:42 -0700 From: Warner Losh <imp@village.org> To: Bruce Evans <bde@zeta.org.au> Cc: Steve Price <sprice@hiwaay.net>, arch@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: The shared /bin and /sbin bikeshed Message-ID: <200011090426.VAA36052@harmony.village.org> In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 09 Nov 2000 15:10:07 %2B1100." <Pine.BSF.4.21.0011091453410.7588-100000@besplex.bde.org> References: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0011091453410.7588-100000@besplex.bde.org>
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In message <Pine.BSF.4.21.0011091453410.7588-100000@besplex.bde.org> Bruce Evans writes: : ./etc: : -rw-r--r-- 1 bde bin 5853 Feb 1 1996 termcap My termcap is only 1906 bytes long. Has network, dumb, unknown, ansi, vt100, xterm, and cons25 in it. I tried to get it down to 1536, but didn't want to give up the arrow keys :-) : Linux was less bloated and could fit a much larger set of useful binaries. : Everything is more bloated now, and I gave up attempting to fit things on : floppies. Yes. With libc running at 500k now, it is hard to get a useful set of binaries onto even a 1.44M floppy. My "minimal" set is running about 8M these days. Great for Timing Soltuion's embedded products with their 32M flash parts, bad for floppies. The basic floppy hasn't followed Moore's law, and the new super floppies are not well supported by various BIOSes. I also hope, and this may be wishful thinking on my part, to put together an X terminal in 16M for my iopener. Warner P.S. archive bloat: Note, I didn't wrap these at 80 columns to save about 50-80 bytes. network|dumb|unknown:am:co#80:do=^J: ansi:co#80:li#24:cl=50\E[;H\E[2J:bs:am:cm=\E[%i%d;%dH:nd=\E[C:up=\E[A:ce=\E[K:ho=\E[H:pt: vt100:do=2\E[B:co#80:li#24:cl=50\E[H\E[J:sf=2*\ED:le=^H:bs:am:cm=5\E[%i%d;%dH:nd=2\E[C:up=2\E[A:ce=3\E[K:cd=50\E[J:so=2\E[7m:se=2\E[m:us=2\E[4m:ue=2\E[m:md=2\E[1m:mr=2\E[7m:mb=2\E[5m:me=2\E[m:is=\E>\E[?1;3;4;5l\E[?7;8h\E[1;24r\E[24;1H:if=/usr/share/tabset/vt100:nw=2\EE:ho=\E[H:as=2\E(0:ae=2\E(B:ac=llmmkkjjuuttvvwwqqxxnnpprr``aa:rs=\E>\E[?1;3;4;5l\E[?7;8h:ks=\E[?1h\E=:ke=\E[?1l\E>:ku=\EOA:kd=\EOB:kr=\EOC:kl=\EOD:kb=\177:pt:sr=2*\EM:vt#3:xn:sc=2\E7:rc=2\E8:cs=5\E[%i%d;%dr:UP=2\E[%dA:DO=2\E[%dB:RI=2\E[%dC:LE=2\E[%dD:ct=2\E[3g:st=2\EH:ta=^I:ms:bl=^G:cr=^M:eo:it#8:ut:RA=\E[?7l:SA=\E[?7h: xterm:li#65:kh=\EOH:@7=\EOF:kb=^H:kD=^?:k1=\EOP:k2=\EOQ:k3=\EOR:k4=\EOS:km:is=\E>\E[?1;3;4;5l\E[?7;8h\E[1;65r\E[65;1H:rs=\E>\E[?1;3;4;5l\E[?7;8h:ve=\E[?25h:vi=\E[?25l:k0@:im@:ei@:F1=\E[23~:F2=\E[24~:ic=\E[@:IC=\E[%d@:ec=\E[%dX:al=\E[L:dl=\E[M:im=\E[4h:ei=\E[4l:mi:dc=\E[P:AL=\E[%dL:DL=\E[%dM:DC=\E[%dP:do=\E[B:cl=\E[H\E[J:sf=\ED:as=\E(0:ae=\E(B:cm=\E[%i%d;%dH:nd=\E[C:up=\E[A:nw=\EE:ce=\E[K:cd=\E[J:so=\E[7m:se=\E[m:us=\E[4m:ue=\E[m:md=\E[1m:mr=\E[7m:mb=\E[5m:me=\E[m:sr=\EM:sc=\E7:rc=\E8:cs=\E[%i%d;%dr:UP=\E[%dA:DO=\E[%dB:RI=\E[%dC:LE=\E[%dD:ct=\E[3g:st=\EH:tc=vt100: cons25:ac=l\332m\300k\277j\331u\264t\303v\301w\302q\304x\263n\305`^Da\260f\370g\361~\371.^Y-^Xh\261i^U0\333y\363z\362:al=\E[L:am:bs:NP:cd=\E[J:ce=\E[K:cl=\E[H\E[J:cm=\E[%i%d;%dH:co#80:dc=\E[P:dl=\E[M:do=\E[B:bt=\E[Z:ho=\E[H:ic=\E[@:li#25:cb=\E[1K:ms:nd=\E[C:pt:rs=\E[x\E[m\Ec:so=\E[7m:se=\E[m:up=\E[A:pa#64:Co#8:AF=\E[3%dm:AB=\E[4%dm:op=\E[x:sc=\E7:rc=\E8:kb=^H:kh=\E[H:ku=\E[A:kd=\E[B:kl=\E[D:kr=\E[C:le=^H:eo:sf=\E[S:sr=\E[T:IC=\E[%d@:DC=\E[%dP:SF=\E[%dS:SR=\E[%dT:AL=\E[%dL:DL=\E[%dM:DO=\E[%dB:LE=\E[%dD:RI=\E[%dC:UP=\E[%dA:cv=\E[%i%dd:ch=\E[%i%d`:bw:mb=\E[5m:md=\E[1m:mh=\E[30;1m:mr=\E[7m:me=\E[m:bl=^G:ut:it#8:km: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-arch" in the body of the message
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