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Date:      Fri, 30 May 2003 10:04:39 -0700
From:      Kent Stewart <kstewart@owt.com>
To:        Rich Morin <rdm@cfcl.com>, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Boot problem: "ata0: resetting devices"
Message-ID:  <200305301004.39445.kstewart@owt.com>
In-Reply-To: <p05200f2abafd3ad5b917@[192.168.254.205]>
References:  <p05200f16bafb423c7331@[192.168.254.205]> <200305300729.41685.kstewart@owt.com> <p05200f2abafd3ad5b917@[192.168.254.205]>

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On Friday 30 May 2003 09:50 am, Rich Morin wrote:
> At 7:29 AM -0700 5/30/03, Kent Stewart wrote:
> >I use the Promise TX2 and Maxtor pci cards in several systems. I
> >just dropped them in and they worked. You would have to boot scsi.
>
>                                         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> So, you're saying that I can't boot from an ATA drive on a PCI-based
> controller card?  What is the background for this limitation?

No, you didn't understand. The ATA cards appear like a scsi to the bios. To 
boot from an add in ATA card, you have to choose scsi boot.

>
> Also, I'm curious about the effects of turning off hw.ata.ata_dma;
> outside of using some CPU time, what are the likely effects of this.
> For instance, is this likely to slow down disk transfers, assuming
> that the system is mostly idle?

You lose a lot of speed. My new ATA cards are all UDMA-133. Dma transfers are 
always faster. PIO is set at something like 16MB/s. You only get so many 
milliseconds of time for a each transfer block and dma is always faster.

Kent

-- 
Kent Stewart
Richland, WA

http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html



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