Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 05:04:20 -0700 From: Mehmet Erol Sanliturk <m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com> To: =?UTF-8?Q?Dag=2DErling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= <des@des.no> Cc: Alexander Leidinger <Alexander@leidinger.net>, advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Did someone compare the number of ports with packages in Linux distros? Message-ID: <CAOgwaMsf2xN0kptBt6j6N7xcvUF0xQK%2BJgosHRS54xc60fctUw@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <86li9l54e9.fsf@ds4.des.no> References: <20130317212401.0000376f@unknown> <D73C4630-5467-4276-84B8-5EEB7CB1A8EA@FreeBSD.org> <86vc8p5cat.fsf@ds4.des.no> <86li9l54e9.fsf@ds4.des.no>
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On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 4:33 AM, Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav <des@des.no> wrot= e: > Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav <des@des.no> writes: > > You can get a meaningful comparison by counting distfiles on our side > > and SRPMs / DSCs on the Linux side. > > I asked a coworker who's a Debian developer; he says Debian has ~30k > packages from ~20k distinct sources, which is in the same ballpark as > the ports tree (~24k ports). > > DES > -- > Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav - des@des.no > > > For me , actually , important problem is "How many packages are supplied with a distribution .iso ?" This point is important , because when a distribution is installed , whether it will produce a workable / usable environment for a (i) server , or (ii) desktop user . I am continuously installing many Linux distributions . Approximately they are supplying 2000 packages per distribution . With respect to selected features ( Desktop , Development , Education , etc. ) , the installed packages is varying between 1000 to 2500 . After completion of installation , it is possible to use the installed system without making any parameter adjustments . I am using KDE . The only required adjustments are the following ( for me ) : >From KDE Settings ( when I try Gnome from its menus ) : Disable screen saver , Disable power saving , Disable gesture , etc. usage , Enable removable media automatic mount In Dolphin ( File Manager ) : Enable double click to activate a selection , Select view mode as detailed , Select displayed file attributes , etc. These are the same for FreeBSD also ( except enable of automatic mount of removable media , selections are ignored ) . The rest in FreeBSD is a nightmare : As it is installed : Install many packages by pkg_add . When a desktop ( KDE . FluxBox , Gnome ) is started : Mouse , key board is NOT working , they are solid rock . To mount removable media : I could not find a way to it . As a result : Only an unusable installation is generated . For example : Version 9.1 Release DVD has some packages , but during install , there is NO any way to install them . It is necessary to be an "Expert" to be able to install them . This structure is driving the FreeBSD in http://distrowatch.com/ "Page Hit Ranking" around 500 at the ranking greater than 20 ( means a small user base with respecto total Linux user base ) . With this installation structure ( not the installer program / script ) , FreeBSD can not be widely adopted , because of like or dislike of it , but not being able to use it . Thank you very much . Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
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