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Date:      Tue, 23 Nov 2010 23:45:43 +1100
From:      Andrew Reilly <areilly@bigpond.net.au>
To:        Jonathan Stewart <jonathan@kc8onw.net>
Cc:        stable@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: ZFS backups: retrieving a few files?
Message-ID:  <20101123124543.GA4751@johnny.reilly.home>
In-Reply-To: <4CEA8BA6.7080009@kc8onw.net>
References:  <20101122113541.GA74719@johnny.reilly.home> <4CEA8BA6.7080009@kc8onw.net>

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On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 10:26:30AM -0500, Jonathan Stewart wrote:
> On 11/22/2010 6:35 AM, Andrew Reilly wrote:
> >Dump/restore doesn't work for ZFS.  I *think* that I'm running
> >backups in the appropriate equivalent fashion: I take file
> >system snapshots (both absolute == level 0) and relative
> >(incremental), and zfs send those to files on the backup disk.
> 
> This is actively discouraged, there is no recovery ability when 
> receiving zfs streams so 1 bad bit would invalidate your entire backup.
> 
> The currently accepted practice is to create a ZFS file system on the 
> backup drive and just keep sending incremental snapshots to it.  As long 
> as the backup drive and host system have a snapshot in common you can do 
> incremental transfers.  This way you only have to keep the most recent 
> snapshot on the main system and can keep as many as you have space for 
> on the backup drive.  You also have direct access to any backed up 
> version of every file.

For those playing along at home, I'll issue a small warning,
based on today's frolics:

Say, for example, one had done a:

zfs send -vR tank/home@0 | zfs receive -d /backup/snapshots

in order to experiment with this strategy.

One would then become alarmed when one discovered that the
receive mechanism also invoked the mountpoint= parameter of the
source filesystem, and the zfs propensity for just doing stuff,
and boom: you have a read-only version of your home directory
mounted *on top of* your actual home directory...

Required a reboot to single user mode, to go in and reset the
mountpoint setting for the newly created file system (by way of
hitting the power switch, after using zfs unmount -f to royally
screw things up, preventing subsequent network logins.)  Left
wondering how to manage that change as part of an automated
backup schedule.

I think that this backup strategy has a few sharp edges...

No, I don't like tar, rsync and friends for backups: they don't
deal well with hard links, special files or sparse files.

Cheers,

-- 
Andrew



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