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Date:      Sun, 12 Jul 2009 22:09:38 -0300
From:      "Carlos A. M. dos Santos" <unixmania@gmail.com>
To:        Scott Long <scottl@samsco.org>
Cc:        svn-src-head@freebsd.org, Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@phk.freebsd.dk>, src-committers@freebsd.org, Scott Long <scottl@freebsd.org>, svn-src-all@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r195534 - in head: etc/mtree include lib/libcam  sbin/camcontrol share/man/man4 sys/cam sys/cam/ata sys/cam/scsi sys/conf  sys/dev/advansys sys/dev/ahci sys/dev/aic7xxx sys/dev/amd sys/de...
Message-ID:  <e71790db0907121809k3c66243fxd039fc67b41ab1d@mail.gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <4A56FC7C.8060107@samsco.org>
References:  <37131.1247214217@critter.freebsd.dk> <4A56FC7C.8060107@samsco.org>

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On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 5:31 AM, Scott Long<scottl@samsco.org> wrote:
> Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
>>
>> In message <200907100818.n6A8I8p1011853@svn.freebsd.org>, Scott Long
>> writes:
>>
>>>  ATA drives are accessed via 'ada' device nodes.
>>
>> It there a particular good reason why we insist on making this
>> silly mistake every five years ?
>>
>> I am pretty sure you were around when Justin won friends by renaming
>> the SCSI disk devices ?
>
> 1. I clearly stated that the name is experimental and that a change in
> the future is possible.

Well, from a user's perspective, if CD/DVD drives are to be seen as
'cdX', then it would make sense that hard disks were seen as daX, as
already advertised by cam(4).

> 2. If the name does change, and if it changes to either 'ad' or 'da', it
> can't happen until the newbus stuff is done first.  I desperately need
> help with that, btw, starting with removing the need for Giant from
> newbus.  Contact myself and/or Warner for details.
>
> 3. Exposing driver name details as the primary handle for users is
> something that I disagree with, and I'd ultimately like to see every
> direct-access block device in the system be called 'disk'.  Or "phk".
> Or "bde" for all I care =-)
>
> 4. While feelings may have been hurt 12 years ago, life did, in fact, go
> on.
>
> Scott



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