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Date:      Wed, 31 Jul 1996 12:08:06 -0700 (MST)
From:      Terry Lambert <terry@lambert.org>
To:        jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard)
Cc:        phk@critter.tfs.com, wollman@lcs.mit.edu, current@FreeBSD.ORG, imp@village.org
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/sys/dev/ccd ccd.c src/sys/dev/vn vn.c src/sys/sys conf.h src/sys/i386/isa fd.c mcd.c scd.c wcd.c wd.c wt.c sOR
Message-ID:  <199607311908.MAA02568@phaeton.artisoft.com>
In-Reply-To: <20261.838411794@time.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at Jul 26, 96 01:09:54 pm

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> > There are a couple of fine points still not resolved.
> > There is >still< no way to generally specify a policy:
> > 	"Make all disks foo.bar mode 0640"
> 
> You wouldn't be losing anything though - we don't have this now! :-)
> You could still make the foo.bar devices underneath and chmod them
> 640, which is not as elegant, no, but still gives the "traditional"
> UNIX user a solution which makes sense.  I wouldn't leave this as a
> sticking point since the proposal solves so many of the problems
> people have been complaining about so far, it should just be done.

Actually, for a real "markup" FS, you could do this automatically
by creating a placeholder (empty file/directory, depending on overlay
type) whenever a chmod/chown/etc. takes place.

> > Why would we even care about the type of node apart from "Directory" or
> > "Not Directory" ?  Ie, we could mount devfs on a FS that doesn't support
> > c/b devs at all (msdos, hfs ...)
> 
> I suppose that's true too!  If you found a regular file named fd0a
> with perms 700 then you'd just borrow the perms and ignore the type?

Yes.  Death to the specfs!  Death to the struct fileops!


					Terry Lambert
					terry@lambert.org
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