Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2002 12:35:43 -0500 From: The Anarcat <anarcat@anarcat.dyndns.org> To: John Baldwin <jhb@FreeBSD.org> Cc: Mikhail Teterin <mi@aldan.algebra.com>, imp@village.org, des@ofug.org, pst@pst.org, obrien@FreeBSD.org, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org, winter@jurai.net, jkh@winston.freebsd.org, rwatson@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/usr.sbin/sysinstall install.c installUpgrade Message-ID: <3CAC8EEF.5070908@anarcat.dyndns.org> References: <XFMail.20020404093657.jhb@FreeBSD.org>
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John Baldwin wrote: >On 04-Apr-2002 Mikhail Teterin wrote: > >>>For the record, I'm in favor of the .zip format. I think that with >>>proper design of the package system, packages can be broken up in >>>subpackages (doc, bin, non-mandatory shlibs, devel headers, etc). I >>>think Debian has followed this technique and I find it quite a good >>>idea. Not everyone needs headers files deployed by some packages, for >>>example. By breaking up packages this way, we can probably resolve the >>>space constraints issues. >>> >>I don't see the relation -- whatever way we slice it, it will still be >>bigger than it has to be if it uses .zip format instead of .tar.bz2 >> >That's because you aren't thinking in a big enough picture. Please calm down >and realize that many people have been thinking about this for a long time. > Thinking back, I think Mikhail is actually right: we can slice packages wether we use .tar, .zip .bz2 or .rar (oh horror! :). Using .zip will help people with dial up connections, but not help us fit stuff on the CD. The only things that can help us stuff more packages on the cd are: 1- slicing the packages, which can be done with or without .zip 2- using a better compression algorithm, which can have negative effects on the package system design: packages need to be downloaded in full and need to be extracted to temporary locations. Sorry to change my mind like this, but I think this is really important. Of course, the design of the package system can take into account both possibilities (.zip AND .tar) but that's really tricky. A. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message
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