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Date:      Fri, 15 Mar 2002 16:00:23 -0800
From:      paul beard <paulbeard@mac.com>
To:        Bob Kovacs <bkovacs@mindspring.com>
Cc:        Salvo Bartolotta <bartequi@neomedia.it>, chat@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Free BSD
Message-ID:  <3C928B17.5020300@mac.com>
References:  <1016219646.3c9247fe203dd@webmail.neomedia.it>

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Salvo Bartolotta wrote:
> [ redirected to -chat before I get flamed :-) ]

good idea ;-)

> paul beard <paulbeard@mac.com> seems to have written:
> 
> 
>>I stopped using KDE since my 500 MHz laptop wasn't enough for it. 
>>
> 
> 
> Urk.
> 
> I have been running KDE2 (and a bunch of other resource hogs^W^Wthings) on a 
> PIII 450MHz without significant problems.  On the other hand, my 
> junk^Wworkstation has 384MB RAM -- well, for the time being. :-)
> 
> I think RAM is the operative word here.


I think you're right about that, but it's hard to believe 128 Mb 
is insufficient for a desktop/client UI. How did Apple get away 
with their (admittedly simple ) UI in 1 Mb on the old all-in-one 
toasters? And come to that, I have 384 Mb in a 350 MHz G3 and OS X 
is still less than zippy, where OS 9 fairly flies by comparison.

To address Bob's question more directly, it helps to see FreeBSD 
for what it is: it's a high-performance OS with performance and 
stability coming before creature comforts. If you want to add a 
more hospitable UI, there are many options, all along the 
performance/comfort curve, from black box or [ugh] twm to KDE and 
Gnome. I like KDE2, but it's just so slow on this machine, it's 
hard to use. Contrast this with the Leading Brand where the UI is 
always there: why would you want to fill a datacenter with systems 
that always waste cycles on a UI and at the same time, don't 
support lightweight remote admin capabilities? (NB: the Register 
this week revealed that parts of HotMail still run on FreeBSD: 4 
years down the road and who knows how many engineering dollars to 
add to the $400 million purchase price, and it still can't 
reliably run exclusively on any MS OS.)

Anyway, I count 79 window manager entries in /usr/ports/x11-wm on 
one of my FreeBSD boxes. Add to that the themes and skins that you 
can add, and there has to be something for just about everyone. 
KDE2 and fvwm have the Windows[tm] emulation thing down so 
starting with one of them might make sense.


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