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Date:      Thu, 29 Jun 2000 16:15:04 -0600
From:      Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org>
To:        Neil Blakey-Milner <nbm@mithrandr.moria.org>
Cc:        cjclark@alum.mit.edu, Brooks Davis <brooks@one-eyed-alien.net>, Francisco Reyes <fran@reyes.somos.net>, FreeBSd Chat list <chat@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: Why can't upgrades be simpler?
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At 02:26 AM 6/29/2000, Neil Blakey-Milner wrote:

>What sort of things are you talking about?  Almost all changes should go
>through -CURRENT before being applied, but there can certainly be
>exceptions for well-tested, verified, script(1)'d make release'd code.

One of the problems with the way things are done now is that patches often
CAN'T go through -current. For example, the modifications to the TCP/IP
stack to harden the system against DoS attacks were totally different
on 4.0 than on 3.x. 4.0 got priority, because it was the "latest and
greatest," even though it was NOT EVEN AT 4.0-RELEASE yet. I think you'll 
agree that it should not have been a higher priority than -STABLE.
How would you avoid this?

>Really, give some examples of cases where things can't be done via
>-CURRENT, and you'll get more response.

See above.

--Brett



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