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Date:      Mon, 15 Feb 2016 22:28:10 +0100
From:      John Marino <freebsdml@marino.st>
To:        Michelle Sullivan <michelle@sorbs.net>
Cc:        Roger Marquis <marquis@roble.com>, FreeBSD Mailing List <freebsd-ports@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Removing documentation
Message-ID:  <56C242EA.9050303@marino.st>
In-Reply-To: <56C237AC.7030305@sorbs.net>
References:  <56C1E579.30303@marino.st> <20160215165952.6199743BFA@shepard.synsport.net> <56C2075A.5000409@marino.st> <20160215173229.2574943BC2@shepard.synsport.net> <56C20D93.5030009@marino.st> <56C237AC.7030305@sorbs.net>

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On 2/15/2016 9:40 PM, Michelle Sullivan wrote:
> Yeah, I'd agree with this... except...
> 
> pkg_* tools don't exist on 10.x only pkgng...  that makes it base os
> thing.. even if it's downloaded in/via ports..
> 
> So sorry don't claim it's only part of the ports system, because whilst
> it maybe built and administered there, the tools it replaced were
> removed from the base OS at the very beginning of 10.x...

What stopped you from installing pkg_* tools from the ports tree on
10.x?  You're just talking about them being removed from base, but you
weren't prohibited from using the tools until they were removed from the
ports tree (and then you could have just frozen the tree while they were
still present)

Plus now you're in a weird place where you can freely migrate to the
latest release (10.x) but can't freely migrate package tools?

Michelle, it's seriously very weak to say ports are tied to releases
because something moved out of base.  Stuff moves out of base all the
time (and actually not fast enough).

JOhn



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