Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 19:14:50 +0100 From: Christian Brueffer <chris@unixpages.org> To: Kevin Oberman <oberman@es.net> Cc: Jarkko Santala <jake@iki.fi>, Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@phk.freebsd.dk>, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: MAKEDEV(8) manpage Message-ID: <20030324181450.GU36490@unixpages.org> In-Reply-To: <20030324171215.7DBD85D07@ptavv.es.net> References: <20030324133457.GR36490@unixpages.org> <20030324171215.7DBD85D07@ptavv.es.net>
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--IfZ+tgy+ooJOsAAy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Mar 24, 2003 at 09:12:15AM -0800, Kevin Oberman wrote: > > Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 14:34:57 +0100 > > From: Christian Brueffer <chris@unixpages.org> > > Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG > >=20 > > On Mon, Mar 24, 2003 at 09:40:32AM +0200, Jarkko Santala wrote: > > > On Sun, 23 Mar 2003, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > > > > > > > In message <20030323143507.GG36490@unixpages.org>, Christian Brueff= er w=3D > > rites: > > > > >now that MAKEDEV has been gone for a while, the manpages (alpha an= d i3=3D > > 86) > > > > >can be nuked as well, right? > > > > > > > > Right. > > > > > > Although it might be considered dragging old baggage around, would it > > > make sense to instead of zapping the man page completely write a new = one > > > that would at least give a clue on how things are done these days? > > > > > > Otherwise unclued people might just think there's something wrong with > > > their system because the man page is missing and get even more confus= ed. > > > > > > -jake > > > > >=20 > > Well, people are supposed to read UPDATING before updating the system. > > UPDATING already has an entry about this, so has the handbook, the > > release notes etc. > >=20 > > I think we can't really help people that don't read the recommended > > documentation. >=20 > I think POLA should apply to things like this (even across major > releases). MAKEDEV has been around for a long time and most folks are > used to it being there. It's simply something that most people assume > will be there on a Unix-like system. >=20 > Yes, people should read UPDATING and, better still, the release > notes. But taking the added step of having a simple man page with a > pointer to the devfs paper and saying that MAKEDEV is no more there will > avoid a lot of confusion.=20 >=20 > The goal of documentation should not be to make it possible for > sophisticated users to use the system. It should make it as > easy as possible for all levels of users, including those new to Unix > and BSD to use the system. >=20 > R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer > Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) > Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) > E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 >=20 > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message >=20 >=20 I'll write a small manpage this evening which says that MAKEDEV is gone now with a short summary of what devfs does. Does that resolve your worries? - Christian --=20 Christian Brueffer chris@unixpages.org brueffer@FreeBSD.org GPG Key: http://people.freebsd.org/~brueffer/brueffer.key.asc GPG Fingerprint: A5C8 2099 19FF AACA F41B B29B 6C76 178C A0ED 982D --IfZ+tgy+ooJOsAAy Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+f0sZbHYXjKDtmC0RArhdAJ9s5arshO90ucl2cdn4HMk6K+WkCACg9/CP Xugh3BEKYLshCQEYtcEh4Ms= =GnuT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --IfZ+tgy+ooJOsAAy-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
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