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Date:      Tue, 04 Dec 2001 12:57:39 -0800
From:      Landon Stewart <landons@uniserve.com>
To:        Alfred Perlstein <bright@mu.org>, David <habeeb@cfl.rr.com>
Cc:        freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: su to root without passwd (you are hacked)
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20011204125646.02d96008@pop.uniserve.com>
In-Reply-To: <20011204135215.P92148@elvis.mu.org>
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OR the username you are su'ing from already has a uid of 0 which.  su'ing 
from a username with a uid of 0 would not ask for a password, it would 
simply start a new shell.



At 01:52 PM 12/4/2001 -0600, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
>* David <habeeb@cfl.rr.com> [011204 13:41] wrote:
> > No, su without a password for root is not an AI feature where freebsd
> > remembers your password.  The difference between your 2 boxes seems to be
> > clear, 1 of them (the one which does not ask for a password) has some
> > backdoors/trojans on it from a novice script kiddie who has compromised 
> your
> > box.  Your 2nd box could as well be compromised.
>
>Either that or somehow the root password has been nulled out by accident.
>Or, the user doing the su'ing somehow has a uid of 0 already.
>
>--
>-Alfred Perlstein [alfred@freebsd.org]
>'Instead of asking why a piece of software is using "1970s technology,"
>  start asking why software is ignoring 30 years of accumulated wisdom.'
>                            http://www.morons.org/rants/gpl-harmful.php3
>
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OR the username you are su'ing from already has a uid of 0 which.&nbsp;
su'ing from a username with a uid of 0 would not ask for a password, it
would simply start a new shell.<br><br>
<br><br>
At 01:52 PM 12/4/2001 -0600, Alfred Perlstein wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite>* David &lt;habeeb@cfl.rr.com&gt;
[011204 13:41] wrote:<br>
&gt; No, su without a password for root is not an AI feature where
freebsd<br>
&gt; remembers your password.&nbsp; The difference between your 2 boxes
seems to be<br>
&gt; clear, 1 of them (the one which does not ask for a password) has
some<br>
&gt; backdoors/trojans on it from a novice script kiddie who has
compromised your<br>
&gt; box.&nbsp; Your 2nd box could as well be compromised.<br><br>
Either that or somehow the root password has been nulled out by
accident.<br>
Or, the user doing the su'ing somehow has a uid of 0 already.<br><br>
-- <br>
-Alfred Perlstein [alfred@freebsd.org]<br>
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technology,&quot;<br>
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wisdom.'<br>
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