Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2011 22:25:13 -0800 From: Garrett Cooper <yanegomi@gmail.com> To: Ron McDowell <rcm@fuzzwad.org> Cc: Doug Barton <dougb@freebsd.org>, freebsd-current <freebsd-current@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Removal of sysinstall from HEAD and lack of a post-install configuration tool Message-ID: <E90CC69E-BA59-4C41-A535-64B8674ACC0C@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4EF953ED.9060905@fuzzwad.org> References: <4EF904F2.4020109@FreeBSD.org> <4EF953ED.9060905@fuzzwad.org>
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On Dec 26, 2011, at 9:13 PM, Ron McDowell wrote: > Doug Barton wrote: >> The story so far ... >>=20 >> sysinstall was removed from HEAD in October. I (and others) objected = on >> the basis that at this time there is no replacement for the = post-install >> configuration role that sysinstall played. More sysinstall components >> were then removed. Then the old version of libdialog (which = sysinstall >> used) was removed. Thus at this point it's not possible to easily >> restore sysinstall. >>=20 >> So my question is, how much do you care? Is lack of that = functionality >> in HEAD something that we care about?=20 >=20 > We have around 90 web servers running 8.2p5 right now [and yes, I did = update the lot on Christmas Eve but that's a different story] and they = will not be upgraded to 9.0 until/unless the post-install functionality = that was lost by the removal of sysinstall is reintegrated in some way. = I also complained about it and was told in effect, "too bad." Everyone = who commented said sysinstall caused more problems than it solved, = although I've been using it for any system changes I needed that it was = capable of doing for as long back as I can remember, and my first = FreeBSD box was v2.2. >=20 > I think removing any functionality that was in a previous release = without providing an equal-or-better alternative is a bad idea, and that = needs to be considered more carefully in the future. >=20 > So this is not just a +1 vote, it's a +90. I hate to steal Devin's thunder, but=85 http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-rc/2010-October/002077.html It's been around for a while and does many of the things needed by the = sysinstall 'post-install' replacement (minus having a registry of = commands vs services to pick from to configure with a slightly more = humanized interface *and it's written almost purely with shell logic and = built-ins, plus is widely tested and adopted in other BSD distros!*. Most of the other stuff is trivial (configuring an interface, a package = installer/configuration tool, etc), and if someone actually said "hey -- = I'll help you get it done!" then yes I'd do it, maintain it, and cherish = it. Offer is on the table for a committer who really wants this task = done. Thanks, -Garrett=
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