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Date:      Fri, 19 Mar 1999 03:57:53 -0700
From:      Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org>
To:        Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>, Ben Smithurst <ben@scientia.demon.co.uk>
Cc:        Dan Busarow <dan@dpcsys.com>, questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Use of FreeBSD-STABLE (was: Oddity in name resolution)
Message-ID:  <4.1.19990319034914.00c485b0@localhost>
In-Reply-To: <19990319155931.V429@lemis.com>
References:  <4.1.19990318210045.03f2e1a0@localhost> <4.1.19990318110122.03f07330@localhost> <4.1.19990317220420.03f15d50@localhost> <Pine.BSF.3.96.990318091851.14678A-100000@java.dpcsys.com> <4.1.19990318110122.03f07330@localhost> <19990318232625.A62933@scientia.demon.co.uk> <4.1.19990318210045.03f2e1a0@localhost>

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At 03:59 PM 3/19/99 +1030, Greg Lehey wrote:
 
>> We can't use a -STABLE version in any production application.
>
>Why not?  That's what they're for.

Not until it gets past the second point version -- that is, X.2.
In this case, we will want to go for at least 3.2, and possibly
3.3, because 3.0 was labeled as not for production use. This isn't
to put 3.1 down; it's merely being conservative.

>> We can only use -RELEASE versions, and then only once they get to at
>> least the second point version (preferably the third). So we're
>> using 2.2.8-RELEASE.
>
>It looks like you're going to have to stay with it.  No more "third
>point" versions are planned.

It sounds as if you may not understand what's normally called a
"point version." A "point version" means X.Y, where each Y determines
a new "point version." The second one is one in which Y=1. (In this case,
we are waiting for Y=2, since 3.0 was labeled as not for production
use).

>More seriously, I think you have misunderstood the purpose of the
>releases.  -STABLE is, as the name suggested, better than -RELEASE.

On a daily basis, -STABLE versions might not even compile, or so
says the Handbook! So, we stick with -RELEASE versions, plus patches 
which are known to be both necessary and good.

>> I have, of course, done that. But when our members complain that they can't
>> turn in their homework to the local community college, or we can't contact
>> The Computer Museum about donating time and possible equipment (both have
>> happened recently), we need to have a workaround. Frankly, BIND should
>> reject the zone file if there's an underscore in a host name, so long as
>> the RFC hasn't been changed to allow it.
>
>Agreed, it's difficult to argue "we're right, you're wrong", even if
>it's the case, if it means they can no longer communicate with you.

It's hard enough to tell them AT ALL if we can't send them e-mail! I contacted 
The Computer Museum by phone to let them know that we couldn't send them e-mail 
due to the host naming problem. (The host which was improperly named was
their only mail exchanger.)

--Brett Glass



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