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Date:      Sun, 16 Mar 2003 22:16:53 +0200
From:      "DJ Boris" <dj_boris@mail.ru>
To:        <tcornpropst@acm.org>
Cc:        "freebsd-questions" <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: how can I stop named to dial out at startup
Message-ID:  <001801c2ebf8$fd243320$f4cd07c4@d>
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:)) down in South Africa it is still very expensive to have broadband,
although it is cheaper in the long run but the installation costs are
horrible and a lot of businesses are still reluctant to get it :)) it will
take sometime.

back to the *problem*
in hosts I have all my internal machines' IP's and my loopback. all is fine
I can ping any machine on the LAN and all LAN machines can ping me without
ppp dialing out. in resolv.conf I have nameservers 127.0.0.1

hm, I am thinking I will just switch off named and tell squid to use the
ISP's DNS. I don't really need a DNS for a 5 PC LAN even just DNS
forwarding.

BUT I will try your way as well and let you know what happens.

thanx


----- Original Message -----
From: "Trevor S. Cornpropst" <tcornpropst@cox.net>
To: "DJ Boris" <dj_boris@mail.ru>
Cc: "freebsd-questions" <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 9:41 PM
Subject: Re: how can I stop named to dial out at startup


> On Sunday 16 March 2003 13:16, DJ Boris wrote:
> > I have supress-initial-notify set to yes as well... no change.
> > my DNS forwarders do require a dial out to reach but I don't see why
this
> > should happen when I start up named.
> > Up until now I was using a Windows NT4 server and I had a programme
called
> > WinRoutePro http://www.infoware.be/en/winroute/index.htm. I was using
its
> > DNS forwarder, its proxy server and its mail server to download mail
from
> > one ISP account with 5 alised email addresses and then users could
collect
> > it from the NT4 machine using a POP3 client.
> > now I am trying to do all this with a freeBSD box. none of this was
> > happening on the NT4 machine with WinRoutePro and that is why I am
> > confused. I do want DNS forwarding to trigger DNS requests but why is it
> > happening when I start named. I don't shutdown my DNS server often. this
is
> > just one little thing that is very annoying and I thought it was
something
> > small that I was missing.
> >
> > the reason that I start named manually and not from rc.conf is because
if I
> > put it in rc.conf the machine hangs at startup and I have to do Crtl-C
in
> > otder to get to the login prompt. when I disable it in rc.conf
everything
> > is OK... I presume is it because named tries to dial as soon as it
starts
> > when the machine hasn't started all its services.... (I might be wrong
> > about this one) so this is a workaround. or may be it is something else
> > ?!?!?
>
> Apologies, I didn't understand your problem in the first reply. You are
> correct "dialup yes" in your named.conf is not going to help as you are
only
> runnlng a caching server, so you won't need to do zone transfers.
>
> I'm thinking your named is trying to sort some things out when it starts,
> hence the hang. Do you have anything in /etc/hosts or /etc/resolv.conf? BB
> (before broadband) I used to run a similar configuration but I always
defined
> an internal zone for my network and never experienced this type of hang.
> Other than that, my config was always straight forward. (i.e. set up my
> internal zone, forward all other requests to my ISP)
>
> Trevor Cornpropst
>


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