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Date:      Sat, 23 Jul 2016 14:32:29 +0200
From:      Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Andrey Chernov <ache@freebsd.org>
Cc:        src-committers@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, svn-src-head@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r303218 - head/tools/tools/locale/tools
Message-ID:  <20160723123228.i2tmxaklkoad6vkh@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net>
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On Sat, Jul 23, 2016 at 02:58:31PM +0300, Andrey Chernov wrote:
> On 23.07.2016 14:52, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
> > On Sat, Jul 23, 2016 at 02:41:39PM +0300, Andrey Chernov wrote:
> >> On 23.07.2016 14:24, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
> >>> Author: bapt
> >>> Date: Sat Jul 23 11:24:05 2016
> >>> New Revision: 303218
> >>> URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/303218
> >>>
> >>> Log:
> >>>   Add another hack to add weekday to date format to more locales
> >>>
> >>>   While here only initialize the iconv converter when needed
> >>>
> >>> Modified:
> >>>   head/tools/tools/locale/tools/cldr2def.pl
> >>
> >> BTW, is there any progress in generating all collates with -m ${area} =
as
> >> you planned?
> >>
> > you mean the @modifier?
>=20
> No, I mean that:
> >> Perhaps all uk_UA should be generated with -m ${area} too - Ukrainians
> >> have extended Cyrillics in their alphabet and I am not sure that their
> >> order match default Unicode order for Cyrillic. The same about be_BY,
> >> bg_BG and sr_Cyrl_RS. They may match or may not, I don't check such
> >deeply.
> >>
> >> It seems the safest side will be to generate all with -m ${area}
> >>
> >Yes that is my plan, except for the 1 or 2 that cannot be generated
> >from cldr
> >directly
>=20

Nope I haven't made any progress, and I actually did a bunch of tests of so=
me
(honnestly not all locales) trying to get a representative set and could not
find differnce in ordering between locales generated with -m ${area}.

It would also needs lots of work on the generation tools.

I first need to write a tool that compares collation rules for various ${ar=
ea}
(not done yet) to see how much this is really needed and use it in the
generation tools.

I will try to do that for 12 if it is really worth it (based on the result =
=66rom
that comparison tools)

Best regards,
Bapt

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