Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 19:39:47 -0700 From: "Peter Wemm" <peter@wemm.org> To: haro@kgt.co.jp Cc: cvs-src@freebsd.org, cvs-all@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ** HEADS UP ** FreeBSD commit mail list changes Message-ID: <e7db6d980810071939l3599827dqc627e8d6e9f3b74a@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <20081008.112727.12117220.haro@kgt.co.jp> References: <e7db6d980810071613oca0cddajc975823ec0496a2f@mail.gmail.com> <20081008.112727.12117220.haro@kgt.co.jp>
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Fixed. Thanks for letting me know about it. On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 7:27 PM, <haro@kgt.co.jp> wrote: > Hello Peter, > > I read most of FreeBSD messages through the following URL: > http://docs.freebsd.org/mail/current/ > > But messages on the newly created lists, e.g. svn-src-all, I cannot > be browsed with the error below. Can you look into it, if you've got > time. > > - Sample URL: > http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=22133+0+current/svn-src-all > > - Error message: > The specified message cannot be accessed. > > As always, thanks for all the hard work on FreeBSD. > > Thanks, > Haro > > From: "Peter Wemm" <peter@wemm.org> > Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 16:13:51 -0700 > ::*** HEADS UP *** > :: > ::FreeBSD.org switched from cvs to subversion (svn) for the src tree a > ::few months ago. Since we were continuing to export the svn changes to > ::cvs (and will continue to do so), we were sending out cvs commit > ::messages. For the most part, non-developers didn't have much of a > ::reason to notice that anything changed. > :: > ::However, we were generating svn-style commit messages internally > ::within the developer group. This caused problems with post-commit > ::discussions being fragmented and sometimes unintentionally not being > ::publicly visible. > :: > ::To complete the transition process, I'm turning off cvs-style commit > ::messages for the "src" tree entirely. The only commit messages will > ::be svn-style. The cvs-src list will no longer get commit messages > ::(and will go away), and cvs-all will no longer get "src" commit > ::messages. (cvs-all will still get ports, projects, doc etc commits). > :: > ::In a brave attempt to try and make this transparent to end users, I > ::put on my peril sensitive sunglasses and copied the cvs-all and > ::cvs-src list members over to svn-src-all. > :: > ::I realize this breaks POLA and will cause some confusion for a short > ::while, but it was the only practical way I could think of to get the > ::switch-over done as quickly as possible. I apologize in advance for > ::any problems I've caused to any of you. > :: > ::In a nutshell, the effects you'll see are: > ::* New envelope sender address > ::* different email headers (cvs* become svn*) > ::* Some of you had your subscription set to 'nomail' - this was NOT > ::preserved. Sorry! > ::* If you had custom list passwords, they were not preserved either. > ::* Some of you were subscribed to cvs-all in digest, but cvs-src in > ::individual messages. Since the two were merged, where there was a > ::conflict you'll get 'individual' email, not 'digest'. > ::* obviously the email format you get will be different. If you've got > ::filters or scripts parsing email, I'm sorry I broke them. > ::* commit messages include diffs! Email messages can be quite a bit bigger. > :: > ::Please note that we have several sub-lists. You may well want to > ::unsubscribe from svn-src-all@ and chose sub-lists instead. > :: > ::A summary of the new lists: > :: > ::svn-src-all SVN commit messages for the entire src tree > ::(except for "user" and "projects") > ::svn-src-head SVN commit messages for the src tree for head/-current > ::svn-src-projects SVN commit messages for the src "projects" tree > ::svn-src-release SVN commit messages for releases in the src tree > ::svn-src-releng SVN commit messages for the release engineering / > ::security commits to the src tree > ::svn-src-stable SVN commit messages for all the -stable branches of the src tree > ::svn-src-stable-6 SVN commit messages for only the 6-stable src tree > ::svn-src-stable-7 SVN commit messages for only the 7-stable src tree > ::svn-src-stable-other SVN commit messages for the old stable src trees > ::svn-src-user SVN commit messages for the experimental "user" src tree > ::svn-src-vendor SVN commit messages for the vendor work area tree > :: > ::For example.. you may only wish to get commit mail for the 7-stable > ::branch. You can do that now. > :: > ::-releng commits are for release engineering and security errata commits. > ::-release commits are when release tags get created. > ::-user and -projects are for work-in-progress areas that are NOT part > ::of the src tree yet. -projects are for WIP that is intended to be > ::committed. -user is for experimental work that might or might not ever > ::be committed to the base src tree. > :: > ::Again, apologies for the POLA violation. > :: > ::-- > ::Peter Wemm - peter@wemm.org; peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com; KI6FJV > ::"All of this is for nothing if we don't go to the stars" - JMS/B5 > ::"If Java had true garbage collection, most programs would delete > ::themselves upon execution." -- Robert Sewell > :: > -- Peter Wemm - peter@wemm.org; peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com; KI6FJV "All of this is for nothing if we don't go to the stars" - JMS/B5 "If Java had true garbage collection, most programs would delete themselves upon execution." -- Robert Sewell
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