Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 06:33:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Thomas David Rivers <rivers@dignus.com> To: bright@wintelcom.net, gjohnson@gs.verio.net Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, grog@lemis.com, kris@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: interesting problem Message-ID: <200009281033.GAA42518@lakes.dignus.com> In-Reply-To: <20000927183939.B7553@fw.wintelcom.net>
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Alfred Perlstein <bright@wintelcom.net> wrote: > > * Tony Johnson <gjohnson@gs.verio.net> [000927 18:26] wrote: > > OK > > Well Here is the issue. If I put in the 2 boot floppies I get a page fault > > 12 after I press Q for "quit" on the visual kernel config. If I can save a > > crash dump before any FS's are mounted or even before I tell FBSD where to > > put the crash dump, I'd really like to know this... I'd like to read a > > handbook page on thisb since some people think I just haven't read it. > > > > At this point in an install, if you could tell me (and the rest of the > > FreeBSD users) where I could get the boot floppies to save a crash dump > > (because I haven't even gotten this far) then I would appreciate this amd be > > more then happy to substantiate this by sending you a crash dump. > > Do you realize how much developer time you're wasting by thrashing > around cluelessly on the list demanding help? > > Here's a clue: > > Forget about your damn irq problem, boot with the disks installed, > then read section of the handbook about crashdumps, compile a debug > kernel and figure out what the problem is. Fix it and send us a > patch. > > Or you could simply run -stable. Alfred, Just playing `devils advocate' here. But, in some initial install situations, exactly how is the user, even the most knowledgeable one, supposed to do much of anything if the install itself doesn't work? Not too much chance of building a kernel, getting a crashdump, etc... Although it may be something we want to put off for awhile, being able to gather debugging information during a failed install would be rather nice. I'm not sure how this could happen; perhaps a crashdump to an MSDOS file system (if available)? Or, straight to a partition with some recovery program that reads the dump? Or, over a serial line? [Just tossing out ideas.] Maybe ficl can get involved and manage this? I would keep this as one of those "maybe nice to have in the ideal future" ideas - but it's something to ponder... - Dave Rivers - -- rivers@dignus.com Work: (919) 676-0847 Get your mainframe (370) `C' compiler at http://www.dignus.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
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