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Date:      Wed, 5 May 1999 13:09:48 +0530 (IST)
From:      Rahul Siddharthan <rsidd@physics.iisc.ernet.in>
To:        "Daniel C. Sobral" <dcs@newsguy.com>
Cc:        Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai <asmodai@wxs.nl>, advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG, Kris Kennaway <kkennawa@physics.adelaide.edu.au>
Subject:   Re: Some thoughts on advocacy (was: Slashdot ftp.cdrom.com upgra
Message-ID:  <Pine.LNX.4.05.9905051247520.16397-100000@theory6.physics.iisc.ernet.in>
In-Reply-To: <372F83BC.597F33F7@newsguy.com>

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> nowadays). Would you mind filling in who are making money by selling
> _their own_ software GPLed?

This really seems way off-topic, which is why I've been keeping
quiet. But since you ask: Cygnus contributes heavily to a lot of
GNU software. In particular, they coordinate development of egcs,
which Stallman has now blessed as the "official" gcc. They sell
an enhanced platform called GNUPro, but nearly all of it is
GPL'd, and all the GPL'd stuff is eventually publicly released.
Red Hat GPL's just about everything they write, such their
install program, the package manager (which is now used by nearly
everyone else), various configuration programs, etc. They have
also funded the GNOME project quite heavily, and employ several
linux developers (including Alan Cox) to write linux and related
code, all of which is GPL'd. They have even ceased support of
non-free stuff like CDE and Applixware, which they used to
support earlier.

Long back, Peter Deutsch had this interesting idea of GPL'ing
old versions of ghostscript, while using two different licences
(free but very restrictive, or commercial) for the latest
version, and he claims to have made enough money to retire on,
while keeping the GNU camp (mostly) happy too.

Maybe this is not so off-topic after all. How many people are
paid to work on FreeBSD? In the linux world, perhaps the closest
analogy to the FreeBSD team may be Debian, but they're not the
reason linux is such a hit over the last year. The reason is the
commercial companies, and the single biggest factor may be Red
Hat, which has made its name among the big corporations, and at
the same time remained in the good books of the linux community
by contributing back heavily.

I'm not saying they did this because of the GPL. They didn't have
to GPL their package manager, for instance, but they did. I see
no hitch in a commercial company selling FreeBSD under the BSDL.  
I suspect a commercial company like BSDI would have done much
better, very likely beaten Red Hat to the big time, if they had
stuck to the BSDL for their distributions and concentrated on the
``support'' market (which includes selling prepackaged CDs and 
manuals, as Red Hat does) for making money.



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