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Date:      Mon, 8 May 2017 20:25:40 +0200
From:      "O. Hartmann" <ohartmann@walstatt.org>
To:        "Ngie Cooper (yaneurabeya)" <yaneurabeya@gmail.com>
Cc:        "O. Hartmann" <ohartmann@walstatt.org>, FreeBSD CURRENT <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: filemon: weird full-time build although filemon enabled
Message-ID:  <20170508202540.470321ac@thor.intern.walstatt.dynvpn.de>
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Am Mon, 8 May 2017 11:23:01 -0700
"Ngie Cooper (yaneurabeya)" <yaneurabeya@gmail.com> schrieb:

> > On May 6, 2017, at 00:22, O. Hartmann <ohartmann@walstatt.org> wrote:
> >=20
> > I build CURRENT on two technically similar systems on a almost daily ba=
sis.
> > Therefore, it was a great relief having WITH_META_MODE=3Dyes set in /et=
c/src-env.conf
> > for incremental builds. To make my understanding of this clear (just in=
 case I'm
> > wrong): setting WITH_META_MODE builds only portions that does not need =
to be build in
> > the make context.
> >=20
> > Well, the reason writing this email is: on one system, I run almost eve=
ry reboot into
> > a "full build" and this puzzles me a bit. The long-lasting and time exh=
austing builds
> > are within the LLVM/CLANG tree. They consume a lot of time. The box in =
question does
> > have a weak CPU, only two physical cores, four threads, 8GB of RAM and =
builds
> > the /usr/obj residing on a SSD. The reference machine does have the sam=
e motherboard,
> > also a SSD, but has 16 GB RAM and a 4-core/8 threads XEON CPU - but bot=
h are
> > "IvyBridge". The XEON usually needs 30 - 40 minutes to compile a full w=
orld/kernel
> > from a clean /usr/obj, the "weak" box takes approximately 120 minutes -=
 it is
> > understandable that a shortage of the build time is appreciated.
> >=20
> > Well, having said this, I need to mention that both systems use almost
> > identical /etc/src.conf setting - except the order of appearance of the=
 WITH_ tags. In
> > fact, they are identical except the KERNCONF (naming of the kernel) and
> > PORTS_MODULES=3D, the "weak" box incorporates x11/nvidia-driver and
> > emulators/virtualbox-ose-kmod, so these modules are build every time th=
e system gets
> > rebuild, but the time taken by those is negligible.
> >=20
> > The problem: to make my point clear: the "weak" box starts compiling al=
most everytime
> > now the LLVM/CLANG tree while the XEON box does not. This is spooky.
> >=20
> > I deleted on both  systems recently /usr/obj completely from its conten=
t and
> > restarted a buildworld again to hope, that the problem was introduced d=
ue to some
> > files necessary for the BSD make environment to indicate the incrementa=
l build. But
> > no success. Even more spooky is the fact, that after a build on the "we=
ak" box and a
> > build again, the box bevaves as expected not rebuilding everything agai=
n, but in some
> > cases after a reboot, a rebuild the hits again the build of LLVM/CLANG =
tree, while
> > the XEON box does not.
> >=20
> > I think there is something missing an I'd like to ask what is the sugge=
sted way to
> > initially restart a full build to ensure that WITH_META_MODE gets initi=
alised
> > correctly.
> >=20
> > Well, I'm not a developer, so please be patient with my naive report.
> >=20
> > Thanks in advance, =20
>=20
> 	Dumb question: which kernel are you using on which machine (GENERIC,
> GENERIC-NODEBUG, a custom kernel with or without debug hooks, e.g., INVAR=
IANTS,
> enabled)? Also, how are you building the system (locally using UFS or ZFS=
, remotely,
> e.g., over NFS, etc)? Thanks, -Ngie

- Custom kernel
- as far as I know, no debug hooks, no INVARIANTS (i tried to eliminate all=
 of them)
- Build is performed on a Samsung SSD 850 PRO with UFS2, locally

--=20
O. Hartmann

Ich widerspreche der Nutzung oder =C3=9Cbermittlung meiner Daten f=C3=BCr
Werbezwecke oder f=C3=BCr die Markt- oder Meinungsforschung (=C2=A7 28 Abs.=
 4 BDSG).

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