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Date:      Tue, 27 Jun 2000 00:54:04 -0600
From:      Warner Losh <imp@village.org>
To:        Wes Peters <wes@softweyr.com>
Cc:        papowell@astart.com, Doug@gorean.org, nik@FreeBSD.ORG, arch@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Bringing LPRng into FreeBSD? 
Message-ID:  <200006270654.AAA32561@harmony.village.org>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 27 Jun 2000 00:52:53 MDT." <39584F45.6C99F22B@softweyr.com> 
References:  <39584F45.6C99F22B@softweyr.com>  <200006242153.OAA01110@h4.private> <200006270615.AAA31842@harmony.village.org> 

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In message <39584F45.6C99F22B@softweyr.com> Wes Peters writes:
: Warner Losh wrote:
: > 
: > Looking at the rest of this thread, I thought I'd run through the
: > license to see if there were any gotchas.  So far all the FUD I've
: > seen on the list seems to be false.
: > 
: > : 4. You may distribute the programs of this Package in object code
: > : or executable form, provided that you do at least ONE of the
: > : following:
: > :
: > :       a) distribute a Standard Version of the executables and
: > :       library files, together with instructions (in the manual
: > :       page or equivalent) on where to get the Standard Version.
: > :
: > :       b) accompany the distribution with the machine-readable
: > :       source of the Package with your modifications.
: > 
: > OK.
: 
: If you're Joe's Print Server Corp you're not gonna be quite so willing to 
: say "OK" to this.  Do you really want your customers trying to upgrade
: your installation of LPRng on the ROMs in your Print Server ][ plus?

We're not Joe's Print Server Corp.  That's Joe's problem, not ours.
He can deliver the stock version of LPRng, or make arrangements with
the copyright holders, just like people that want to distribtue hacked 
copies of perl w/o passing their changes back.

: > :       c) accompany any non-standard executables with their
: > :       corresponding Standard Version executables, giving the
: > :       non-standard executables non-standard names, and clearly
: > :       documenting the differences in manual pages (or equivalent),
: > :       together with instructions on where to get the Standard
: > :       Version.
: > :
: > :       d) make other distribution arrangements with the Copyright
: > :       Holder.
: 
: Go back over this with your "I'm an embedded company using FreeBSD and
: I want to provide print services in my box" hat on and see if you still
: feel this is acceptable.

Yes.

: Granted, this is not the only customer base FreeBSD has, but it's a 
: good, strong one and one that has contributed a lot.  Let's try not to
: blow it for them.

We shouldn't be afraid to import these sources based on this.

Like I said before, if the server company wants to distribtue their
own hacked copy of LPRng, which isn't available at all, then they will 
need to get a license from the copyright holder.  Otherwise, they will 
have to use lpr.  Us including or not including lprng won't change that.

Warner


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