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Date:      Sat, 17 May 2008 14:47:21 -0400
From:      Chuck Robey <chuckr@telenix.org>
To:        Torfinn Ingolfsen <torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no>
Cc:        freebsd-usb@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: USB HID parser
Message-ID:  <482F2839.2050008@telenix.org>
In-Reply-To: <20080515092911.a4ab2e5b.torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no>
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Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote:
> Hello, 
> 
> On Wed, 14 May 2008 21:10:46 -0400
> Chuck Robey <chuckr@telenix.org> wrote:
> 
>> After getting no response to any requests for any feedback (like
>> alpha test, but about either the protocol features, OR the
>> accessibility of the UI) I begin to wonder if there is really any
>> interest pool for this.  Unless I get at least *some* feedback, I
> 
> Migt I respectfully suggest that no response is because you did the
> "show and tell2 backwards?
> I think you would have gotten more responses if your mail had included
> a link to a place on the net where the tool could be downloaded.
> 
> I'll use myself as an example: for my personal use, I use and test lots
> of usb devices on FreeBSD (what can I say - I am a gadget freak), so I
> am a bit interested.
> But asking for something in a mail is just so 90'es.
> I prefer to get my programs, source, and information off the net.
> 
> Just my 20 eurocents (and written with a light twinkle of humor in my
> eye).
> 
> 
>> will make it available, but no port.  Geeze, it doesn't need one!  If
> 
> Any tool worth anything _deserves_ a port. And it helps with exposure,
> as has been said elsewere in this thread.
> 
>> I'm beginning to wonder if I will have even one FreeBSDer who wants
>> it,  Might get rid of a couple of Linux versions.  I hate to admit
> 
> I want it - butt _not_ in my mail, please. Put it up somehwere on the
> net and tell us about it.
> 
>> that it works just as well on Windows, darn it.  Maybe I could figure
>> out how to break it for Windows, what do you say?
> 
> I don't care about windows one way or the other (I use it for work
> because Ihave to, not because I like or prefer it).

OK, let me cover all the suggestions.  First, the name, fine, I renamed it to
uhidParser, and the current version is 0.2 (will hit 1.0 if I ever get any
feedback, else it's stay where it is).  You can pic up a copy at:
http://people.freebsd.org/~chuckr/vofr/python/uhidParser-0.2.tbz

Lastly, the port.  I have, for a great long time, really felt very wrong, that
items that needed no adaptation (or 'porting') received ports.  Once, I even saw
a one liner, truly simple C program get a port, merely to encourage a new
programmer (if I remember right, it converted DOS carriage returns to Unix
ones), and I just felt that such a truly simple thing was abuse of the port
project.  That's my own belief.  I don't try to push my beliefs upon you, do I?
 So, please, don't try it push them on me.  When I do a port of something, or
when I write something that needs some help in compiling for non-techies, then
I'll port it, but it's just too simple, it even includes it's own help info,
it's just making no real use of the ports tools to make a port of it.  I went
ahead and gave you a URL, I agree there, but not on the port, not for a thing
like this.

I can't stop you from porting it, I know that, but I wish you wouldn't.  It's
just not port material.  OK, if you want to continue the argument, do it
privately, I won't respond publicly any more about it.  No Flamefests, least not
because of me.
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