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Date:      Thu, 30 Nov 2000 01:18:42 -0800
From:      Kent Stewart <kstewart@urx.com>
To:        Joey Garcia <gummibear@nettaxi.com>
Cc:        questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: checking KDE2 again..
Message-ID:  <3A261B72.60440F55@urx.com>
References:  <200011291807.AA43450538@wdc.callgtn.com> <00112920442900.00959@bsd.we.mediaone.net> <3A25DB3D.90020D9E@urx.com> <00112923075100.02990@bsd.we.mediaone.net>

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Joey Garcia wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 29 Nov 2000, Kent Stewart wrote:
> 
> > > You know, I'm having the same exact problem.  I just got done installing
> > > FreeBSD 4.2 and installed KDE 2.0 via the packages system.  (I too could
> > > never get the ports to compile correctly)  It seems that the logout
> > > buttons don't work at all.  It's kind of annoying having to kill the X
> > > server in order to get out of KDE.  I guess that's what happens when
> > > running "made for Linux" software.
> >
> > I'm running KDE-2 just fine. They just fixed kscd so that I can play
> > my audio CD's. If you are having problems, something in the your
> > dependancy tree isn't built right. You have to have removed qt and all
> > of the KDE1 stuff. The other ports in the dependancy list also have to
> > be current. Then it will take a few hours to build but it works just
> > fine.
> >
> > Kent
> 
> So you're saying that it's better to install KDE from the ports collection
> rather than using /stand/sysinstall and installing the pre-compiled packages?
>  I installed the pre-compiled stuff and I'm having the logout problems.
> Other than that it seems to work fine so far.  I think even the artsd sound
> server starts up which actually didn't at first for some reason.  Maybe they
> still have some kinks to work out.

LOL, yes more than a few kinks. If I were to assign a star for install
difficulty on a scale of 0-10, KDE2 would be a 11.5. However, once you
get it installed properly, it seems to work ok. I think KDE-2 is
shaking everything down and there are patches coming out for these
side modules, You won't get them with a package install. You have to
be cvsup'ing your ports to see if you are out of date. So, I don't
believe sysinstall will do a adequate job at this point. I would
compare KDE-2 with FreeBSD 3.0-release. That may be unfair but I'm not
sure which product that will be true for :). I didn't have any
problems with FreeBSD 3.1. What I read is that a 0.1 version is coming
out RSN and perhaps it will work better from the package environment.
The more feedback, the better it becomes. If you have a slow computer,
it will seem to take forever to do the builds. A really slow computer
would almost have to wait for the updated packages. For example, my
P-II 400 with 256MB of memory was compiling for about 12 hours
straight. With the ratios of 2 applied, a P-200 would take 48 hours.

What I did is use the equivalent of /usr/ports/sysutils/pib and
"pkg_version -v" to track down the dependancies. I started at the top
and worked to the bottom doing pkg_delete's and make cleans. Then I
built them back up. When I got the non-kde dependancies built, the
rest was pretty easy. All I did was a make and make install in
/usr/x11/kde2. Once you start each make, all you can do then is go off
and find something else to do. When I came back much later, it was
through building and it worked. 

When patches for kdemultimedia2 came out, you only had to rebuild it.
I haven't seen a package version at that level.

Kent

> 
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