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Date:      Tue, 23 Apr 2002 03:31:13 -0700
From:      Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com>
To:        Greg 'groggy' Lehey <grog@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        Jordan Hubbard <jkh@winston.freebsd.org>, Robert Watson <rwatson@FreeBSD.ORG>, Oscar Bonilla <obonilla@galileo.edu>, Anthony Schneider <aschneid@mail.slc.edu>, Mike Meyer <mwm-dated-1019955884.8b118e@mired.org>, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Security through obscurity? (was: ssh + compiled-in SKEY support  considered harmful?)
Message-ID:  <3CC537F1.7F571CD2@mindspring.com>
References:  <rwatson@FreeBSD.ORG> <Pine.NEB.3.96L.1020422223923.64976i-100000@fledge.watson.org> <11670.1019530386@winston.freebsd.org> <20020423131646.I6425@wantadilla.lemis.com>

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Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
> I've been noticing a continuing trend for more and more "safe"
> configurations the default.  I spent half a day recently trying to
> find why I could no longer open windows on my X display, only to
> discover that somebody had turned off tcp connections by default.
> 
> I have a problem with this, and as you imply, so will a lot of other
> people.  As a result of this sort of thing, people trying to migrate
> from other systems will probably just give up.  I certainly would
> have.  While it's a laudable aim to have a secure system, you have to
> be able to use it too.  I'd suggest that we do the following:

I think we need to make an ACPI call in the loader to power off
the machine before it becomes dangerously functional.

-- Terry

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