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Date:      Fri, 29 Mar 2013 05:51:11 -0700 (PDT)
From:      Barney Cordoba <barney_cordoba@yahoo.com>
To:        Jack Vogel <jfvogel@gmail.com>, Nick Rogers <ncrogers@gmail.com>
Cc:        "freebsd-net@freebsd.org" <freebsd-net@freebsd.org>, "Clement Hermann \(nodens\)" <nodens2099@gmail.com>
Subject:   Re: igb and ALTQ in 9.1-rc3
Message-ID:  <1364561471.47223.YahooMailClassic@web121602.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
In-Reply-To: <CAKOb=YamkU=fPOMbe-WpcjRL2it1ox75vJ0rkMocSySABF2RFw@mail.gmail.com>

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--- On Thu, 3/28/13, Nick Rogers <ncrogers@gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Nick Rogers <ncrogers@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: igb and ALTQ in 9.1-rc3
> To: "Jack Vogel" <jfvogel@gmail.com>
> Cc: "Barney Cordoba" <barney_cordoba@yahoo.com>, "Clement Hermann (nodens)" <nodens2099@gmail.com>, "freebsd-net@freebsd.org" <freebsd-net@freebsd.org>
> Date: Thursday, March 28, 2013, 9:29 PM
> On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 4:16 PM, Jack
> Vogel <jfvogel@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Have been kept fairly busy with other matters, one
> thing I could do short
> > term is
> > change the defines in igb the way I did in the em
> driver so you could still
> > define
> > the older if_start entry. Right now those are based on
> OS version and so you
> > will
> > automatically get if_transmit, but I could change it to
> be IGB_LEGACY_TX or
> > so,
> > and that could be defined in the Makefile.
> >
> > Would this help?
> 
> I'm currently using ALTQ successfully with the em driver, so
> if igb
> behaved the same with respect to using if_start instead of
> if_transmit
> when ALTQ is in play, that would be great. I do not
> completely
> understand the change you propose as I am not very familiar
> with the
> driver internals. Any kind of patch or extra
> Makefile/make.conf
> definition that would allow me to build a 9-STABLE kernel
> with an igb
> driver that works again with ALTQ, ASAP, would be much
> appreciated.
> 
> >
> > Jack
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 2:31 PM, Nick Rogers <ncrogers@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 1:09 AM, Jack Vogel <jfvogel@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> > On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 11:58 PM, Gleb
> Smirnoff <glebius@freebsd.org>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 03:31:19PM -0800,
> Jack Vogel wrote:
> >> >> J> UH, maybe asking the owner of the
> driver would help :)
> >> >> J>
> >> >> J> ... and no, I've never been aware of
> doing anything to stop
> >> >> supporting
> >> >> altq
> >> >> J> so you wouldn't see any commits. If
> there's something in the altq
> >> >> code
> >> >> or
> >> >> J> support (which I have nothing to do
> with) that caused this no-one
> >> >> informed
> >> >> J> me.
> >> >>
> >> >> Switching from if_start to if_transmit
> effectively disables ALTQ
> >> >> support.
> >> >>
> >> >> AFAIR, there is some magic implemented in
> other drivers that makes them
> >> >> modern (that means using if_transmit), but
> still capable to switch to
> >> >> queueing
> >> >> mode if SIOCADDALTQ was casted upon them.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> > Oh, hmmm, I'll look into the matter after my
> vacation.
> >> >
> >> > Jack
> >>
> >> Has there been any progress on resolving this
> issue? I recently ran
> >> into this problem upgrading my servers from 8.3 to
> 9.1-RELEASE and am
> >> wondering what the latest recommendation is. I've
> used ALTQ and igb
> >> successfully for years and it is unfortunate it no
> longer works.
> >> Appreciate any advice.
> >>

Do yourself a favor and either get a cheap dual port 82571 card or
2 cards and disable the IGB ports. The igb driver is defective, and until
they back out the new, untested multi-queue stuff you're just neutering 
your system trying to use it.

Frankly this project made a huge mistake by moving forward with multi
queue just for the sake of saying that you support it; without having
any credible plan for implementing it. That nonsense that Bill Macy did
should have been tarballed up and deposited in the trash folder. The
biggest mess in programming history.

That being said, the solution is not to hack the igb driver; its to make
ALTQ if_transmit compatible, which shouldn't be all that difficult. 

BC





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