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Date:      Mon, 4 May 1998 12:56:50 +0200
From:      Eivind Eklund <eivind@yes.no>
To:        John Kelly <jak@cetlink.net>
Cc:        chat@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: ports/www/ijb - Imported sources
Message-ID:  <19980504125650.03205@follo.net>
In-Reply-To: <355034a1.230009870@mail.cetlink.net>; from John Kelly on Mon, May 04, 1998 at 03:29:34AM %2B0000
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On Mon, May 04, 1998 at 03:29:34AM +0000, John Kelly wrote:
> On Mon, 4 May 1998 05:10:20 +0200, Eivind Eklund <eivind@yes.no>
> wrote:
> 
> >> It's self evident to most people that they have the right to determine
> >> who and what enter their home.
> >
> >That's not privacy.  Here's a definition:
> >From WordNet (r) 1.6 [wn]:
> >
> >  privacy
> >       n 1: the quality of being secluded from the presence or view of
> >            others [syn: {privateness}, {seclusion}]
> >       2: the condition of being concealed or hidden [syn: {privateness},
> >           {secrecy}, {concealment}]
> >
> 
> You ought to get your head out of your computer and read a book once
> in a while.  Try Webster's:
> 
>    privacy
> 	1b: freedom from unauthorized intrusion <one's right to ~>

This makes sense, as long as you have the concept of 'interacting observer'
down pat - and use that as your form of intrusion.

Data is not an observer.

Eivind.


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