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Date:      Mon, 15 Nov 1999 16:27:12 -0800 (PST)
From:      Matthew Dillon <dillon@apollo.backplane.com>
To:        Garance A Drosihn <drosih@rpi.edu>
Cc:        Lyndon Nerenberg <lyndon@orthanc.ab.ca>, current@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: ps -e
Message-ID:  <199911160027.QAA46037@apollo.backplane.com>
References:  <199911152248.dAFMmaQ18726@orthanc.ab.ca> <v04210102b4564d03f393@[128.113.24.47]>

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:>    Matthew>     Why don't we get rid of the 'e' option to ps while we
:>    Matthew> are at it considering how much of a security hole it is.
:>
:>I wouldn't nuke it completely. Make -e a noop unless the real uid ps
:>is running with matches the effective uid of the process being reported.
:>And if ps is invoked with a real uid of 0, -e works as it does now.
:
:I'd favor something like this.  The unixes I am most used to did not
:have '-e' as an option, and I had two immediate reactions when I found
:freebsd's did:
:    1) wow, this is great for debugging a problem I'm having
:    2) yikes, what a security exposure!  (I have some scripts
:       where a password is passed from one script to another
:       one via an environment variable...)

    Yes, or by 'root'.  Personally, I would like to see the option removed
    entirely.  I don't think a half-measure would improve the security
    problem much.

:So, I'd like to have it for debugging my own processes, but
:...
:Garance Alistair Drosehn           =   gad@eclipse.acs.rpi.edu

    gdb.

    I shudder to think that people might actually start depending on this
    non-feature.  Better for it to just go away.

						-Matt


					-Matt
					Matthew Dillon 
					<dillon@backplane.com>



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