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Date:      Thu, 12 May 2005 15:37:23 +0200
From:      Michal Mertl <michal.mertl@i.cz>
To:        Ted Mittelstaedt <tedm@toybox.placo.com>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   RE: NTP issues with 5.4
Message-ID:  <1115905043.703.15.camel@genius1.i.cz>
In-Reply-To: <LOBBIFDAGNMAMLGJJCKNEEFPFBAA.tedm@toybox.placo.com>
References:  <LOBBIFDAGNMAMLGJJCKNEEFPFBAA.tedm@toybox.placo.com>

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Ted Mittelstaedt píše v st 11. 05. 2005 v 21:05 -0700: 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Michal Mertl
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 3:59 PM
> > To: Ted Mittelstaedt
> > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> > Subject: RE: NTP issues with 5.4
> >
> >
> > Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
> > > Did you do an in-place update or a nuke-and-repave update?
> > >
> > > if it's an in-place update, then do a nuke-and-repave on your
> > > test system and see if the problem still happens.  If not then
> > > there's a library or something somewhere that the updater
> > forgot about.
> >
> > It update with buildworld and mergemaster. I doubt the issue can be
> > cause by something in my config or installation. By 'nuke-and-repave'
> > you mean fresh install? I can't do that on the machines in
> > question, one
> > of them is acting as a router.
> >
> 
> Then go to Goodwill and buy a $10 PC and load 5.4 on it.  Your making
> excuses.  If you have that many production systems that you just can't
> turn off, then you damn well better have a test system.

Please calm down and don't "order" me what to do.

I have been doing upgrades from source for ages and never had a problem.
It is a documented process and I only upgraded some of the computers
from 5.3 to 5.4, e.g. not across major versions.

I believe the chance it's caused by borked installation is minimal -
what do you think influences ntpd? It's linked to 4 libraries, all of
them are updated, it doesn't use any system config files and there was
only a slight change in imported ntp version. It can be caused by bad
config of ntpd which only recently began to matter or more probably by a
kernel change.

I will try to boot with 5.3 kernel. I'll also try to see if I can
reproduce it on some computer which I can try fresh install on.

Michal



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