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Date:      Sun, 11 Mar 2001 18:13:12 -0500
From:      Bill Vermillion <bill@bilver.wjv.com>
To:        jwgray@netbox.com
Cc:        freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: co-location model
Message-ID:  <20010311181311.A29281@wjv.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.10.10103111328570.96200-100000@adsl-63-201-55-220.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net>; from jwgray@netbox.com on Sun, Mar 11, 2001 at 01:32:22PM -0800
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On Sun, Mar 11, 2001 at 01:32:22PM -0800, Jeff Gray thus spoke:

> In thinking about the co-location model of many machines, whether
> 1U or bigger, one realizes that lots of space, lots of energy [I
> am writing from California], lots of iron and other materials are
> inefficiently consumed. Let alone late night trips to the server
> farm.
>
> Instead of co-location with lots of physical servers if someone
> were to setup a mainframe that provided,

>   -multiple OS configurations and alternatives
>   -centralized hardware management
>   -centralized security management on the mainframe
>   -flexible, reliable, scalable storage

> then space, energy, raw materials and I suspect major costs could be
> minimized. Late night trips to the server could be eliminated!

> My two questions.
> -Is this a reasonable long term model for ISPs and or server farms?

> -Does anyone offer this today at the scale of rack size bites of
> physical space?

IBM is selling a solutions like this for Linux.  Their example
shows $1.2million for an S390 [some new ??-server name] running
and with 2500 instances of Linux.  It's a much smaller footprint
than 2500 machines and surely a lot less of a hassle to wire up.

They advertise at basically five 9s - 5 minutes downtime per year -
with onsite service if needed.

I beleiver I read that Sendmail, Inc. has one of these installed.

> [I say mainframe only to emphasize extreme hardware and software
> reliability].

That's how IBM is pushing their iron.

Bill
-- 
Bill Vermillion -   bv @ wjv . com

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