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Date:      Mon, 26 Feb 2001 20:45:10 +1100
From:      "Andrew Reilly" <areilly@bigpond.net.au>
To:        Bill Huey <billh@gnuppy.monkey.org>
Cc:        David Xu <bsddiy@163.net>, Zsolt Kuti <kuti@cetelem.hu>, freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Hello from BSDi's BSD/OS division ;)
Message-ID:  <20010226204510.A23200@gurney.reilly.home>
In-Reply-To: <20010226005750.A4340@gnuppy>; from billh@gnuppy.monkey.org on Mon, Feb 26, 2001 at 12:57:50AM -0800
References:  <E14VuwL-0000xO-00@gnuppy.monkey.org> <3A96177A.79D89B88@cetelem.hu> <20010223005304.A5179@gnuppy> <1730344963.20010226165924@163.net> <20010226005750.A4340@gnuppy>

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On Mon, Feb 26, 2001 at 12:57:50AM -0800, Bill Huey wrote:
> It's been a suprisingly difficult project overall, but I'd expect
> to have to do a port of HotSpot and other JITs included with
> the standard Sun JVM along the way.

If it's not violating any NDAs, could you give a quick summary
for the peanut gallery about _why_ porting the Sun JVM to *BSD
is difficult?  The Sun propaganda had led me to believe that
the JVM was a small, simple thing that even a tiny embedded
controller could support.

Is it just really badly written?

Or is it hard to make the Sun garbage collector deal with BSD
VM?

Or are the BSD pthreads implementations somehow inadequate?

Or is there porting work in the standard java libraries, (which
I understand are quite large) as well as in the JVM itself?

Sorry for being intrusive.  I've just been impressed over the
last couple of years at how gaping the gap between Sun's "Java
everywhere" rhetoric and the observable fact that Java wasn't
actually anywhere that I cared to be...

-- 
Andrew

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