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Date:      Thu, 06 Jul 2006 18:38:53 +0200
From:      Martijn Veening <martijn@detrics.com>
To:        Kurt Miller <kurt@intricatesoftware.com>
Cc:        freebsd-java@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Apache Tomcat crash on 6.1
Message-ID:  <1152203933.16100.7.camel@detri015.speed.planet.nl>
In-Reply-To: <200607061102.20270.kurt@intricatesoftware.com>
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Hi Kurt,

It's definitely the Probe monitoring application as mentioned before.
Now it runs at a constant memory-footprint in 'top'.
I'll post a message to the Probe-team.

Thanx for your efforts, your first diagnosis of out-of-memory was
correct.
Highly appreciated !

Martijn Veening
www.detrics.com


On Thu, 2006-07-06 at 17:02, Kurt Miller wrote:

> Hi Martijn,
> 
> On Thursday 06 July 2006 9:27 am, Martijn Veening wrote:
> > Hi Kurt, thanx,
> > see below, for remarks:
> > 
> > On Thu, 2006-07-06 at 15:14, Kurt Miller wrote:
> > 
> > > Hi Martijn,
> > > 
> > > On Wednesday 05 July 2006 5:28 pm, Martijn Veening wrote:
> > > > Hi Kurt, thnx for suggestions,
> > > > 
> > > > Indeed it seems that java process memory increases, although the reading
> > > > is different from the tomcat manager reading. The size started at 450M
> > > > (res 100M) and after 6 hours increased to 600M (res 160M). I can imagine
> > > > that if that continues another 10 hours, the 1 Gb limit is reached
> > > > causing crash.
> > > > Tomcat however read lower memory-usage, but that will be memory within
> > > > the JVM-reserved memory, which differs from the process-memory in
> > > > FreeBSD (I presume).
> > > 
> > > Right, tomcat reported memory usage doesn't account for
> > > memory the jvm uses in addition to the java object heap.
> > > 
> > > Hmmm, looking over the original bug report I don't see
> > > -Xmx or -Xms arguments being used. Also, it could take
> > > some time for the java process memory utilization to
> > > stabilize. Even after it stabilizes there is some
> > > fluctuation when full GC's occur.
> > > 
> > > For the sake of minimizing some of these issues, try
> > > running tomcat with -Xmx250m -Xms250m so that all of
> > > the java heap is allocated upfront and then look for
> > > increasing java process memory usage after things
> > > stabilize.
> > 
> > >From the beginning it runs with Xms200m and Xmx256m opts (added in
> > catalina.sh script).
> > It now runs for 16 hours and has added up to SIZE=891m and RES=581m
> > (says 'top').
> > It increases slowaly, but continually.
> 
> It does sound like you've found a leak. Now the hard part
> is isolating it. It would be helpful to know if you see the
> same behavior with the port version of the jdk. This would
> reveal if the leak is new or not.
> 
> If you could try to isolate the leak to simple test program
> that would be helpful. The last time I hunted down a leak in
> the jdk I had a test program to work with. The process is
> tedious - track each malloc and match it up with a free. 
> Attempting to do that on tomcat with a full blown web app
> would be impossible.
> 
> Regards,
> -Kurt
> 



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