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Date:      Mon, 23 Jul 2001 12:52:26 -0400
From:      "alexus" <ml@db.nexgen.com>
To:        "Forrest W. Christian" <forrestc@imach.com>, <jeff@tht.net>
Cc:        "Bob Martin" <bob@buckhorn.net>, <freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: IPs/VHOST/ALIAS/IDENTd/IRC
Message-ID:  <004601c11397$da46d870$0d00a8c0@alexus>
References:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0107230901020.19566-100000@workhorse.iMach.com>

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i know for sure that this isn't ident issue

due to i can irc fine from first ip just fine... so its definatly something
else..

----- Original Message -----
From: "Forrest W. Christian" <forrestc@imach.com>
To: <jeff@tht.net>
Cc: "alexus" <ml@db.nexgen.com>; "Bob Martin" <bob@buckhorn.net>;
<freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG>
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 11:07 AM
Subject: Re: IPs/VHOST/ALIAS/IDENTd/IRC


Jeff,

I have tested both his IDENT ports from here and they are working just
fine.  I'm not sure why the IRC server is yelping.   I suspect either it
doesn't like something subtle about the ident response or it is giving a
bogus error message, and is really throwing him off because of some other
reason.

Thus my two recommendations below (try a different identd, connect to a
different server)

On Mon, 23 Jul 2001 jeff@tht.net wrote:

> Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 11:56:09 -0300 (ADT)
> From: jeff@tht.net
> To: Forrest W. Christian <forrestc@imach.com>
> Cc: alexus <ml@db.nexgen.com>, Bob Martin <bob@buckhorn.net>,
>      freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG
> Subject: Re: IPs/VHOST/ALIAS/IDENTd/IRC
>
> Hi,
>
> Ok, i'm not sure i understand the entire shceme, but from
> the mumbo below, i assume that one machine is behind a natd
> firewall ?
>
> that means that when you try to connect from the inner machine
> the irc server is trying to get inetd info from your firewall.
>
> your firewall doesn't pass this request on. so what you want
> to do is install an inetd that will basically respond to anything
>
> i use "lie inetd" or - linetd . it cured this problem for me.
>
> jeff
>
>
> On Mon, 23 Jul 2001, Forrest W. Christian wrote:
>
> > Try a different irc server, or try a different ident server (like the
> > warm-fuzzy perl script I gave you).
> >
> > On Mon, 23 Jul 2001, alexus wrote:
> >
> > > Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 01:47:32 -0400
> > > From: alexus <ml@db.nexgen.com>
> > > To: Forrest W. Christian <forrestc@imach.com>
> > > Cc: Bob Martin <bob@buckhorn.net>, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG
> > > Subject: Re: IPs/VHOST/ALIAS/IDENTd/IRC
> > >
> > > well ... let's see
> > >
> > > ωνω Connecting to port 6667 of server irc.lightning.net [refnum 0]
> > > [lightning]  *** Looking up your hostname...
> > > [lightning]  *** Found your hostname, cached
> > > [lightning]  *** Checking Ident
> > > [lightning]  *** Banned: Install Identd for access (2001/4/18 09.20)
> > > ωνω Closing Link: a1exus[alexus@255.255.255.255] (Banned)
> > > ωνω Connection closed from irc.lightning.net: Undefined error: 0
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Forrest W. Christian" <forrestc@imach.com>
> > > To: "alexus" <ml@db.nexgen.com>
> > > Cc: "Bob Martin" <bob@buckhorn.net>; <freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG>
> > > Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 1:33 AM
> > > Subject: Re: IPs/VHOST/ALIAS/IDENTd/IRC
> > >
> > >
> > > > What errors are you seeing on the IRC server?
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, 23 Jul 2001, alexus wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 01:33:45 -0400
> > > > > From: alexus <ml@db.nexgen.com>
> > > > > To: Forrest W. Christian <forrestc@imach.com>
> > > > > Cc: Bob Martin <bob@buckhorn.net>, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG
> > > > > Subject: Re: IPs/VHOST/ALIAS/IDENTd/IRC
> > > > >
> > > > > su-2.05# ifconfig fxp0
> > > > > fxp0: flags=8943<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,PROMISC,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST>
mtu
> > > 1500
> > > > >         inet 66.92.98.145 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast
66.92.98.255
> > > > >         inet 66.92.98.151 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast
66.92.98.255
> > > > >         ether 00:60:94:a5:cb:44
> > > > >         media: autoselect (100baseTX <full-duplex>) status: active
> > > > >         supported media: autoselect 100baseTX <full-duplex>
100baseTX
> > > > > 10baseT/UTP <full-duplex> 10baseT/UTP
> > > > > su-2.05#
> > > > >
> > > > > i even changed my broadcast .. same *ahem* thing...
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Forrest W. Christian" <forrestc@imach.com>
> > > > > To: "alexus" <ml@db.nexgen.com>
> > > > > Cc: "Bob Martin" <bob@buckhorn.net>; <freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG>
> > > > > Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 1:22 AM
> > > > > Subject: Re: IPs/VHOST/ALIAS/IDENTd/IRC
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > No.  Something else OTHER than ident is broken.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ident is working as designed.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Mon, 23 Jul 2001, alexus wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 01:16:30 -0400
> > > > > > > From: alexus <ml@db.nexgen.com>
> > > > > > > To: Forrest W. Christian <forrestc@imach.com>
> > > > > > > Cc: Bob Martin <bob@buckhorn.net>, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: IPs/VHOST/ALIAS/IDENTd/IRC
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > could that be due to
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > i have different broadcast?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > what broadcast do anyway? what is it for
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > From: "Forrest W. Christian" <forrestc@imach.com>
> > > > > > > To: "alexus" <alexus@usa.com>
> > > > > > > Cc: "Bob Martin" <bob@buckhorn.net>; <freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG>
> > > > > > > Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 12:56 AM
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: IPs/VHOST/ALIAS/IDENTd/IRC
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Ident appears to be working on your box on both ports:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -------------------TEST OUTPUT BEGIN
> > > > > > > > mail# telnet 66.92.98.151 ident
> > > > > > > > Trying 66.92.98.151...
> > > > > > > > Connected to bigballz.com.
> > > > > > > > Escape character is '^]'.
> > > > > > > > ^]
> > > > > > > > telnet> z
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Suspended
> > > > > > > > mail# netstat -an | grep 66.92
> > > > > > > > tcp4       0      0  206.127.64.140.4188    66.92.98.151.113
> > > > > > > > ESTABLISHED
> > > > > > > > mail# fg
> > > > > > > > telnet 66.92.98.151 ident
> > > > > > > > 113,4183
> > > > > > > > 113 , 4183 : USERID : UNKNOWN : root
> > > > > > > > Connection closed by foreign host.
> > > > > > > > ------------------TEST OUTPUT END
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ------------------TEST OUTPUT BEGIN
> > > > > > > > mail# telnet 66.92.98.145 ident
> > > > > > > > Trying 66.92.98.145...
> > > > > > > > Connected to oXyeTb.com.
> > > > > > > > Escape character is '^]'.
> > > > > > > > ^]
> > > > > > > > telnet> z
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Suspended
> > > > > > > > mail# netstat -an | grep 66.92
> > > > > > > > tcp4       0      0  206.127.64.140.4242    66.92.98.145.113
> > > > > > > > ESTABLISHED
> > > > > > > > mail# fg
> > > > > > > > telnet 66.92.98.145 ident
> > > > > > > > 113,4242
> > > > > > > > 113 , 4242 : USERID : UNKNOWN : root
> > > > > > > > Connection closed by foreign host.
> > > > > > > > ------------------TEST OUTPUT END
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I'd look elsewhere, however:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Have you considered running a "warm-fuzzy" ident?  It lets a
lot
> > > less
> > > > > > > > information out about your system.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Use this perl script:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -------- CUT -----------
> > > > > > > > #!/usr/local/bin/perl
> > > > > > > > ($a, $b) = split(/[,\n\r ]+/,<>);
> > > > > > > > print "$a , $b : USERID : UNIX : Warm-Fuzzy\r\n";
> > > > > > > > -------- CUT -----------
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > And reference it from your inetd.conf instead of the ident
code.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Mon, 23 Jul 2001, alexus wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 00:46:41 -0400
> > > > > > > > > From: alexus <alexus@usa.com>
> > > > > > > > > To: Bob Martin <bob@buckhorn.net>
> > > > > > > > > Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG
> > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: IPs/VHOST/ALIAS/IDENTd/IRC
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > su-2.05# sysctl net.inet.ip.forwarding
> > > > > > > > > net.inet.ip.forwarding: 1
> > > > > > > > > su-2.05# ifconfig fxp0
> > > > > > > > > fxp0:
flags=8943<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,PROMISC,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST>
> > > mtu
> > > > > > > 1500
> > > > > > > > >         inet 66.92.98.145 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast
> > > 66.92.98.255
> > > > > > > > >         inet 66.92.98.151 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast
> > > 66.92.98.151
> > > > > > > > >         ether 00:60:94:a5:cb:44
> > > > > > > > >         media: autoselect (100baseTX <full-duplex>)
status:
> > > active
> > > > > > > > >         supported media: autoselect 100baseTX
<full-duplex>
> > > > > 100baseTX
> > > > > > > > > 10baseT/UTP <full-duplex> 10baseT/UTP
> > > > > > > > > su-2.05#
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > i've tryed to change netmask of second ip to .255 instead
of .0
> > > but
> > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > doesn't seems to help:(
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > and i also checked my forwarding settings, it was already
set to
> > > 1
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > > From: "Bob Martin" <bob@buckhorn.net>
> > > > > > > > > To: "alexus" <alexus@usa.com>
> > > > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2001 5:42 PM
> > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: IPs/VHOST/ALIAS/IDENTd/IRC
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > alexus wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Hi
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I have 2 IPs on my box
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > 66.92.98.145 ( oXyeTb.com ) and 66.92.98.151 (
> > > bigballz.com )
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I put both of those IPs into my /etc/rc.conf file
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > alexus@~# grep fxp0 /etc/rc.conf
> > > > > > > > > > > ifconfig_fxp0="inet 66.92.98.145  netmask
255.255.255.0"
> > > > > > > > > > > ifconfig_fxp0_alias0="inet 66.92.98.151  netmask
> > > 255.255.255.0"
> > > > > > > > > > > alexus@~# ifconfig fxp0
> > > > > > > > > > > fxp0:
> > > flags=8943<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,PROMISC,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST>
> > > > > mtu
> > > > > > > > > 1500
> > > > > > > > > > >         inet 66.92.98.145 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast
> > > > > 66.92.98.255
> > > > > > > > > > >         inet 66.92.98.151 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast
> > > > > 66.92.98.255
> > > > > > > > > > >         ether 00:60:94:a5:cb:44
> > > > > > > > > > >         media: autoselect (100baseTX <full-duplex>)
status:
> > > > > active
> > > > > > > > > > >         supported media: autoselect 100baseTX
<full-duplex>
> > > > > > > 100baseTX
> > > > > > > > > > > 10baseT/UTP <full-duplex> 10baseT/UTP
> > > > > > > > > > > alexus@~#
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > so looks like they up and running fine
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > although I'm having one problem (at least so far)
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > whenever I'm trying to IRC from my box from my primary
IP
> > > .145 (
> > > > > > > > > > > oXyeTb.com ) everything seems to be in order
> > > > > > > > > > > whenever I'm trying to use my second IP .151 (
> > > bigballz.com ) I
> > > > > > > can't
> > > > > > > > > get on
> > > > > > > > > > > IRC at all.. some of IRC server tells me that my ident
isn't
> > > > > > > installed
> > > > > > > > > even
> > > > > > > > > > > though it *is* installed and I'm being able to logon
to same
> > > > > server
> > > > > > > from
> > > > > > > > > my
> > > > > > > > > > > first IP just fine
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > here is prove that i *do* have ident (port 113)
running
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > alexus@~# netstat -ta | grep auth
> > > > > > > > > > > tcp4       0      0  *.auth                 *.*
> > > > > > > > > LISTEN
> > > > > > > > > > > alexus@~# grep 113 /etc/services | grep tcp
> > > > > > > > > > > auth            113/tcp    ident tap
#Authentication
> > > Service
> > > > > > > > > > > alexus@~#
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > is there some special way I need to add any additional
IPs
> > > or
> > > > > what
> > > > > > > am I
> > > > > > > > > > > doing wrong?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > thanks in advance
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > You need to change the netmask of the alias to
> > > 255.255.255.255,
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > make
> > > > > > > > > > sure that gateway is enabled.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > You can change the IP with ifconfig, and you can enable
the
> > > > > gateway
> > > > > > > > > > with:
> > > > > > > > > > sysctl -w net.inet.ip.forwarding=1
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > All of this is in the archives 8^)
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > bob
> > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > But in our enthusiasm, we could not resist a radical
overhaul
> > > of
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > system, in which all of its major weaknesses have been
> > > exposed,
> > > > > > > > > > analyzed, and replaced with new weaknesses.
> > > > > > > > > >     -- Bruce Leverett, "Register Allocation in
Optimizing
> > > > > Compilers"
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
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