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Date:      Tue, 18 Sep 2012 22:27:56 +0200
From:      Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Eitan Adler <lists@eitanadler.com>
Cc:        Konstantin Belousov <kostikbel@gmail.com>, arch@FreeBSD.org, Doug Barton <dougb@FreeBSD.org>
Subject:   Re: Fallout from the CVS discussion
Message-ID:  <20120918202755.GB26107@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net>
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On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 06:03:24PM -0400, Eitan Adler wrote:
> On 17 September 2012 17:52, Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> wrote:
> [snip]
>=20
> >>>> There is a compromise solution here that I have been hesitant to off=
er
> >>>> because I was really hoping that sanity would prevail. But why not
> >>>> switch the default MK_CVS knob over to "no" now? That will give us an
> >>>> opportunity to see if there really will be any fallout, and easily f=
ix
> >>>> it if there is.
> >>>
> >>> I believe that's already been done.
> >>
> >> It isn't now, but it sounds to me like you're saying that you're not
> >> opposed to doing so?
> >
> > MK_CVS moving to 'no' by default is something we can do right away, sin=
ce it is easy to figure out what went wrong for the people using cvs and pu=
tting it back w/o needing to download anything new.  Living behind firewall=
s can make downloads a pita.  I have had systems with very specific holes t=
hat made it a PITA to download anything to them, and it is a common occurre=
nce.
> >
> >> Eitan, if you're listening, I'd strike while the iron is hot. :)
> >
> > Since I thought that had already been done, please do so.  Please make =
sure that ObsoleteFiles does the right thing too :)  Oh, and make sure UPDA=
TING is updated.
>=20
> I have some surrounding commits to get done first. I'd like to get
> some of the existing documentation that refers to CVS removed or
> modified first.
> There is some consensus for making MK_CVS default to "no" early, so
> I'll take that into account and commit that sooner than the above
> listed conditions.
> Does this change require a OSVERSION bump?  I'm inclined to say yes as
> the ports infrastructure might need to be aware of the change.
>=20
What for?

I don't see any reason why the ports tree would like to know about the cvs
removal, do you have something in mind?

regards,
Bapt

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