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Date:      Tue, 15 Dec 2015 23:57:28 +0100
From:      Bengt Ahlgren <bengta@sics.se>
To:        Ian Smith <smithi@nimnet.asn.au>
Cc:        Johannes Dieterich <dieterich.joh@gmail.com>, freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: AMD A12-8800B ACPI questions (turbo mode, temp zones)
Message-ID:  <uh78u4vwc9z.fsf@P142s.sics.se>
In-Reply-To: <20151216005408.B61100@sola.nimnet.asn.au> (Ian Smith's message of "Wed, 16 Dec 2015 01:15:48 %2B1100 (EST)")
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Ian Smith <smithi@nimnet.asn.au> writes:

> On Sun, 13 Dec 2015 19:53:52 -0500, Johannes Dieterich wrote:
>  > Dear list,
>  > 
>  > I am running CURRENT on an HP elitebook 745 G3 which comes with a AMD
>  > A12-8800B CPU. All in all, it runs very well with just a few nits to
>  > pick. Two of them are ACPI related.
>  > 
>  > 1) there are 5 thermal zones defined out of which only two provide
>  > reasonable numbers it seems:
>  > 
>  > hw.acpi.thermal.tz4.temperature: 34.1C
>  > hw.acpi.thermal.tz3.temperature: 0.1C
>  > hw.acpi.thermal.tz2.temperature: 0.1C
>  > hw.acpi.thermal.tz1.temperature: 0.1C
>  > hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature: 56.1C
>  > 
>  > my gut feeling is that tz0-tz3 may be the CPU cores and tz4 would be
>  > the GPU (which does not work in BSD ATM, hence consistently lower
>  > temp). I guess this is not a big deal (everything works) but I still
>  > wonder how to fix it.
>
> Not sure if anything needs fixing, but I only have Intel gear these 
> days and am not up on the AMD side of things.  However, please show:
>
> % sysctl dev.cpu
> % sysctl hw.acpi.thermal
>
> which may provide more clues.  Perhaps all 4 cores are in one package, 
> in which case individual CPU temperatures may not be too meaningful.  I 
> don't know whether there's any equivalent to coretemp(4) for AMD CPUs?

Yes, amdtemp(4), which on this system gives one value per processor
package:

$ sysctl dev.amdtemp
dev.amdtemp.0.%desc: AMD CPU On-Die Thermal Sensors
dev.amdtemp.0.%driver: amdtemp
dev.amdtemp.0.%parent: hostb4
dev.amdtemp.0.sensor_offset: 0
dev.amdtemp.0.core0.sensor0: 24.6C
dev.amdtemp.1.%desc: AMD CPU On-Die Thermal Sensors
dev.amdtemp.1.%driver: amdtemp
dev.amdtemp.1.%parent: hostb10
dev.amdtemp.1.sensor_offset: 0
dev.amdtemp.1.core0.sensor0: 25.3C

Those values however seem a bit low to be true...

> Yours won't use est(4) but perhaps powernow(0) - 0 meaning no manpage :) 
> but both are in GENERIC kernels.  You should be able to glean from dmesg 
> which driver/s are in use; a verbose dmesg.boot might come in handy.

It is called "hwpstate":

$ sysctl dev.hwpstate
dev.hwpstate.0.%desc: Cool`n'Quiet 2.0
dev.hwpstate.0.%driver: hwpstate
dev.hwpstate.0.%parent: cpu0
dev.hwpstate.0.freq_settings: 3100/10920 2700/8600 2200/6200 1800/4500 1400/3105

Bengt

>  > 2) turbo mode: this is a more major issue. sysctl reports the
>  > following for all four cores:
>  > 
>  > dev.cpu.0.cx_lowest: C2
>  > dev.cpu.0.cx_supported: C1/1/0 C2/2/400
>  > dev.cpu.0.freq_levels: 2100/4717 1800/3450 1400/2320
>  > dev.cpu.0.freq: 2100
>  > 
>  > >From the intel CPUs w/ turbo mode I had before I know that there
>  > should be (at least) a 2101 frequency indicating the turbo clock. This
>  > frequency is absent, I suspect this means turbo mode does not work.
>
> Or that these CPUs just don't have a turbo mode, as such?  I expect the 
> specs on AMD's site should mention that, either way?
>
>  > How can I debug this? I believe also that this AMD chip has multiple
>  > frequencies above the base clock of 2100, so how would that show?
>
> What leads you to believe that?  Where is this documented?
>
>  > Loaded modules:
>  > 
>  > Id Refs Address            Size     Name
>  >  1   23 0xffffffff80200000 1e79670  kernel
>  >  2    1 0xffffffff8207b000 384858   zfs.ko
>  >  3    2 0xffffffff82400000 ca38     opensolaris.ko
>  >  4    1 0xffffffff8240d000 22b98    geom_eli.ko
>  >  5    1 0xffffffff82431000 ac60     aesni.ko
>  >  6    1 0xffffffff8243d000 1c520    fuse.ko
>  >  7    1 0xffffffff82621000 358b     ums.ko
>  >  8    1 0xffffffff82625000 223c4    ipfw.ko
>  > 
>  > I should note that I boot in legacy mode, not EFI.
>  > 
>  > asl dump available from http://llamapost.net/elitebook.asl
>
> If it cxomes to that ..
>
>  > Thanks a lot!
>  > 
>  > Johannes
>
> Not much help, but I see noone else springing to your aid so far ..
>
> cheers, Ian
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