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Date:      Fri, 29 May 1998 08:29:07 -0400
From:      "Jim Flowers" <jflowers@ezo.net>
To:        "spork" <spork@super-g.com>, "Open Systems Networking" <opsys@mail.webspan.net>
Cc:        <freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: FreeBSD Tunneling
Message-ID:  <01bd8afd$5fdb2bc0$8a8266ce@violet.eznets.canton.oh.us>

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I have no particular interest in defending SKIP which is available for
FreeBSD only because DEC did a reference implementation back at 2.1.0 and
2.1.5.  I had to do quite a bit of code juggling to get it to compile with
2.2.5 which resulted in a pretty good understanding of how it works.  I have
used it successfully with fbsd to fbsd and Win95 to NT.  From NT/Win95 to
fbsd it provides authentication and encapsulation but with no common
encryption methods for transit keys it's in cleartext.  I also use an
upgrade (3.0?) for the NT/Win95 program which may not have ever been
released, freely.

I found that there was a great deal of documentation of very high quality at
the user level including a fairly decent powerpoint presentation.  The "how
it works" at the program level could use updating to match the current
operation but it's a 10% job, not a 90% job.

And of course it could benefit from patches to use with current.  There are
three or four modules that are caught in macro processing differences from
2.1.X to 2.2.X.

All told, I think it's a currently usable option for someone willing to
spend the time.  I have one tunnel coupling two private networks over the
Internet with full encryption and encapsulation running for six months
without a hiccup.

-----Original Message-----
From: spork <spork@super-g.com>
To: Open Systems Networking <opsys@mail.webspan.net>
Cc: freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG <freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG>
Date: Friday, May 29, 1998 1:01 AM
Subject: Re: FreeBSD Tunneling


>
>> I was going to write a section in the handbook for SKIP once I got it
>> working but im quite convinced SKIP sucks, and while no one likes writing
>> doc's I have seen more documentation on "undocumented" kernel options
>> thatn SKIP. Im sure once its working it is probably nice, but I think the
>> implementation must be piss poor if so many people are finding it
>> impossible to get configured.
>
>It seems particularly difficult to make it work from FBSD<->win95...
>Reminded me of getting the windows 5.5.5 pgp to work with the ol' 2.6.3 on
>Unix...  There's always gotta be a 'gotcha'.
>
>Charles
>
>>
>> > Agreed on both accounts. Keep in touch w/ me if you want testers, etc.
>>
>> I'd be happy to test it as well.
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> --
>> "I don't do favors, I accumulate debts"
>>
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