Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 14:37:08 +0200 (EET) From: Narvi <narvi@haldjas.folklore.ee> To: Keith Leonard <keithl@wakko.gil.net> Cc: Jamie Bowden <jamie@inna.net>, Wes Peters <softweyr@xmission.com>, chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cursing the sky (was: Commerical applications ...) Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.3.95.970123142042.16146A-100000@haldjas.folklore.ee> In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.3.95.970122190327.14622A-100000@wakko.gil.net>
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On Wed, 22 Jan 1997, Keith Leonard wrote: > Howdy Jamie, > > Did you give the BSD cd to you wife and she created the buttons and > install all the software?? NO. Which is my point. If you could give your > wife the CD and with a simple book at her side SHE could install it and > then use with a little reading it would be more widely used. As it is now > YOU had to set it up (bet you didn't start using Unix yesterday). This is > what I've been talking about. > > With Windoze (3.0, 3.1) when you install a program it puts icons on your > desktop and you double click. With Unix , you not only have to guess what > the programs executiable is really named you have to have a full working > knowledge of were in the setup file for your window manager to put it, how > to create the button, what size screen to make it , how to specify its > geometry (Netscape uses a '.' Mosaic a *, xterm uses characters, Mosaic > uses pixals....) yadda, yadda, yadda. > Well, perhaps we could talk jamie into submitting his mouse button settings (for a window manager) and include them on the CD adding a checkbox to the XFree86 install screen: X - install supercool easy FreeBSD access with xxxx (was it ctwm?) Witch would, of course: 1) Install the apropriate window manager 2) Set it as default (so that user doesn't get twm instead of it when starting up X) 3) Install all the programs any of the functions uses And suddenly, we are at least slightly aproaching user-friendliness with X. Of course, others could also offer their mouse/keyboard/etc. settings they consider useful. Sander > > This is my point! > > What you say below is what is needed to popularize BSD etc, not with the > rocket jockeys but with the average joe in the street. An installation > routine that will install the basics and be setup to run. Craftwork linux > uses 2 questions to configure X, and neither is more complicated than is > asked by Windoze (3.1 or 3.0) - shock-suprise it actually works. > > On Wed, > 22 Jan 1997, Jamie Bowden wrote: > > > Uh, my wife has no idea how to use unix. Whe she logs in, X comes up, > > and all she has to do is click a mouse button to connect to the net. She > > starts netscape, pine, etc. from a mouse button. I also have buttons to > > disconnect and shutdown as necessary. > > > >
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