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Date:      Thu, 2 Sep 1999 00:31:35 -0400 (EDT)
From:      Garrett Wollman <wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu>
To:        Darren Reed <avalon@coombs.anu.edu.au>
Cc:        freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: socket buffer limits (was: Re: FW: Local DoS in FreeBSD)
Message-ID:  <199909020431.AAA08736@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu>
In-Reply-To: <199909020347.NAA23859@cheops.anu.edu.au>
References:  <199909020335.XAA08433@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> <199909020347.NAA23859@cheops.anu.edu.au>

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<<On Thu, 2 Sep 1999 13:47:10 +1000 (EST), Darren Reed <avalon@coombs.anu.edu.au> said:

> How about failing setsockopt's when they try to increase buffer space
> if it would mean buffer space commitments would exceed a high water mark ?

That's no different from what I dismissed in my reply to Don.  We
don't want to restrict the potential TCP window a user may offer, just
how much actual kernel memory he may tie up at once.

> Also, what if mbufs are dropped and/or send/write fails (ENOBUFS) if there
> is nobody waiting to receive data and a high water mark has been reached ?

POLA violation for sure.  (TCP should be rewritten, however, to use
the receiver's advertised window for user push-back, but that's at
least a full-time person-year's worth of work to write, test, and
tune.  That would mean that loopback connections could only use one
window's-worth of kernel memory for buffering.)

-GAWollman

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